Question about trojans and netstat

ok, so i have a few trojans on my comp, it happens to a lot of people. i keep dloading all these trojan scanners and cleaners, and they only detect the trojans if i run the prog that contains them(with a real time scanner running). Any suggestions as to why or a working scanner/cleaner?
Also, while i have the trojans on my comp...
if i use netstat to monitor the listening ports, will it have an IP in place of 0.0.0.0 if someone if accessing my comp?
AARGH I hate trojans......

no..itll say the trojan port and the persons ip...if u have xp...cntrl alt delete..and close all wierd process's that u dont know what they are...and keep only ones u want open

Diablo II = game.exe
Internet Explorer = iexplorer.exe
MSN = msmsgs.exe


but system process's you need to keep on..and network..anything thats local (ur user name) u should probebly close..just experiment..and then when u find the trojan process...

Start, run

msconfig

then go to startup and find it..uncheck it...and look in other tabs for it..uncheck it if you find..


have fun