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Supreme Moderator Nomination Discussion Thread
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Posted 2008-09-11, 03:39 PM
Poot it here. Let's try to keep it civil, if possible.

Of all of the people nominated so far, I think Jessifer is the best choice. Her activity is relatively high, and she's generally very nice to everyone, and very diplomatic. She is, from my own personal experience from the 6-7 or so years I've known her, a very level-headed person that can see things from a neutral standpoint. She also has, as far as I know, a significant amount of experience with the internet and internet communities in general, so I think she could likely be a productive staff member in the way of perpetuating Zelaron's existence. Also, having a chick in the staff would be cool.

My second pick would most likely be -Spector-. Once again, he always seems to be nice to everyone and a mostly neutral entity when drama happens. He has shown a genuine desire to help improve Zelaron, and has done things in the Diablo 2 forums, as well as behind the scenes. I've been suggesting for him to be made a Supreme Moderator for months now, and I have full faith that he would do a good job at it.

Number three for me would be Thanatos. Even though he's essentially a douchebag, he's also decently level-headed and mostly care-free about drama at Zelaron, aside from being very anti-me. He's an old schooler that knows how things are at Zelaron, and most likely could do good things as a Supreme Moderator.
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Posted 2008-09-11, 04:11 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post "Supreme Moderator Nomination Discussion..."
I would argue that I have done as much for the Automotive forums as Spector has done for the Diablo section, and I'm not even a MOD. Even given that Diablo is about a 10-15x easier platform to generate interest considering this is a gaming forum. Not to take anything away from it, but I just don't see enough progress to agree with that. Jessifer is okay, she is level headed but doesn't seem to be around that much, and hasn't suggested anything for the boards probably, ever? And Thanatos would probably be my top pick, as he accurately represents the forums, without the bitching.

I don't really care who gets the position, just somebody that can help the boards out. We actually need somebody coming up with ideas and helping this damn place out.














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Posted 2008-09-11, 04:26 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I would argue that I have done as much..."
i dont understand the hate you have for spector... how can you moderator that which requires no moderation? to my knowledge the diablo forums died along time ago, with the occasional random 1st time poster saying, Z0mG nE1 nkWO pubic DOOPS!.... He could moderate the shit outta the d2 forum but that doesnt get anything accomplished because theres no activity in it.

i didnt read all of this just the first few, but it didnt apply to spector cause there isnt anything to moderate

http://www.bluehostforum.com/showthread.php?t=19 said:
Forum Moderator

A forum moderator is someone granted special powers to enforce the rules of an Internet forum (or, as the case may be, their personal whim; the title refers to the powers more than the intent). Almost all moderators on all forums can move discussions to different sections of the forum, "close" or "lock" discussions to prevent users from continuing to discuss them, edit the content of individual postings, and "pin" or "stick" discussions so they remain visible in their forum section even if no new postings are made to them; different forums may give their moderators further powers.

Role

The roles of moderators can vary from forum to forum, just as the purposes of the forums themselves can vary. However, on boards intended to be public, moderators are generally accorded additional powers to enforce forum rules and conduct administrative tasks that cannot be trusted to ordinary users (such as pinning threads—if any user were allowed to pin his or her own thread, chaos would ensue).

Among a moderator's enforcement duties is often the duty to stop flaming and keep the board a friendly place, free of personal insults (but different boards have different standards, and what is acceptable on one will invariably be prohibited on another). Most boards also ban illegal material (such as warez) and outright pornography, and many also restrict the use of swear words and any violent or sexual images.

On some boards, moderators are expected to stay out of all contentious debates, or at least to use alternate accounts to engage in them unbeknownst to common members. On most boards, however, moderators may participate just as any normal member, provided they remain civil and generally obey the site rules. Some boards require moderators not to moderate any discussion or topic they're involved in, and many moderators on other boards take this upon themselves to avoid conflict of interest and bias.

As always, there are many exceptions. Many small boards are operated at the whim of the site operator and perhaps some of his or her friends, and moderators might be able to do whatever they feel like on such boards (provided they avoid crossing their colleagues and superiors). Of course, a board with overly harsh or capricious moderators will lose members, but this may not be a concern for those who operate boards for fun or as a tangential matter to their website's main content.

Powers

Moderators can have some or all of the following powers, depending on the specific forum. Some of the powers, where appropriate, may be restricted to a subsection of the board.

* Moving conversations to a different section of the forum. Virtually all forums are organized into various sections by topic to allow users to more easily read what interests them without having to sort through many topics of discussion they find boring. Moderators of most forums are able to move a conversation to a section more suited to it. On most modern forum software packages, a notice may be left in the original section so that those who contributed to the conversation earlier will be able to find it where they left it, at least for a few days.

(Note: forum sections are often ambiguously referred to themselves as "boards" or "forums". For instance, "I posted in the Wikipedia forum on the MediaWiki board" would be unexceptional in most communities, meaning "I posted in the section of the MediaWiki forum devoted to Wikipedia". For the sake of clarity, this article uses section to refer to sections of a board and forum or board to refer to an entire board.)


* Closing/locking threads (which term is used varies from community to community and software package to software package). Postings to Internet forums are organized into topics or threads of postings, typically organized sequentially by time of posting to form a conversation of sorts (see Internet forum). Most forums allow their moderators to close a given thread to further posting, effectively ending the conversation. This allows the existing content to remain fully visible, so that readers can easily see the moderator's reasons for closing the thread (it's generally customary for the moderator to post an explanation immediately before or after closing a thread). Certain users, generally moderators and administrators, may be able to post in closed threads, depending on the specific software package and configuration, although of course allowing too many users to post in closed threads defeats the purpose of closing the thread in the first place.

* Editing posts. In the event that a post is made that contains only some content that breaches forum rules, moderators are usually able to remove that content while still leaving any legitimate content. Even if an entire post is removed via editing, users will still be able to see who originally posted it and when it was originally posted, so that users who view the thread later won't be confused by any references to it. Usually this method is used to remove illegal or grossly offensive material that would remain visible in a closed thread, or else to stop a single post from derailing an entire thread.

Most forum software shows an edit notice whenever a post is edited, to prevent words from being put in a user's mouth (or to prevent a user from erasing evidence that he said something objectionable). This option can typically be made optional for certain categories of users if desired.

* Pinning/sticking threads (again, the term used varies). The threads in a section are usually displayed in reverse chronological order by last post. This means that the threads at the top of the listing for a section will be the ones in which someone has most recently posted, and therefore posting in a thread will "bump" it to the top of the listing. However, pinned threads remain above unpinned threads at all times, no matter how old. This may be used to, for instance, keep a copy of forum rules at the top of every section of the board.

* Deleting posts and threads. There are different kinds of deletion, and different moderators on different forums may be empowered to use different kinds. In general, something that's deleted vanishes from public view, if it continues to exist at all.

The simplest form of deletion is variously called hard-deletion, physical removal, or (on forums that don't support other deletion options) simply deletion. Essentially, content deleted in this way is not recoverable through the forum software. It may be stored in backups, and some data recovery methods may work, but such methods are usually difficult. Many forums restrict hard-deletion to only a handful of individuals, requiring lower-level moderators to use more reversible methods.

Other deletion methods can be collectively referred to as soft-deletion. The most basic of these is to move the content in question to a hidden section of the forum, so that only authorized users can view it. Anyone with the proper powers can then move the content back just as easily. One or two software packages, as of October 2005, have inbuilt support for soft-deletion—specific groups of users can be allowed to view a deletion notice but not the deleted content, or to view and undelete the deleted content. This allows more convenient soft-deletion of individual posts, which would otherwise have to be split from the thread (thereby obscuring their connection to their original context).

* Splitting and merging threads. If two threads exist on similar topics, or multiple topics are being discussed in one thread, the threads can be merged or the thread can be split.

* Banning users. Some forums allow some or all moderators to restrict or eliminate a troublesome user's posting or even viewing rights. Other boards restrict this ability to administrators. Of course, suspension of a user's account doesn't prevent the user from signing up under a different name, and for this reason a few forums also allow moderators to ban IP addresses. (Many boards that allow moderators to ban restrict the ability to IP-ban to administrators, however. Indeed, on vBulletin moderators can't be assigned the ability to ban an IP address.)

* Viewing IP addresses. An IP address is the way Internet-enabled computers communicate with each other, and most forums log the IP address that all postings are made from. In general, this serves to aid identification of users, in combination with less technological means such as writing style, but it is by no means foolproof (see Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol and proxy server for two main ways in which it can be thwarted). IP addresses can therefore assist in stopping ban evasion, for instance. In general, ordinary users are prohibited from seeing others' IP addresses for reasons of privacy and security—if a hacker or otherwise technologically-savvy individual knows an IP address, it's possible for him to "attack" it in various ways, possibly taking revenge for the expression of views he disagrees with or the like.

Many other powers can be allocated to moderators, but the above are all the most important ones. In general, all moderator actions will be logged for administrators to refer to later, so moderators can't take any special actions without their superiors being able to determine that they were the ones who did it...
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Posted 2008-09-11, 04:30 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "i dont understand the hate you have for..."
Kazilla said: [Goto]
i dont understand the hate you have for spector... how can you moderator that which requires no moderation? to my knowledge the diablo forums died along time ago, with the occasional random 1st time poster saying, Z0mG nE1 nkWO pubic DOOPS!.... He could moderate the shit outta the d2 forum but that doesnt get anything accomplished because theres no activity in it.

i didnt read all of this just the first few, but it didnt apply to spector cause there isnt anything to moderate
A moderator shouldn't just moderate IMO. They should be coming up with new ideas to spark activity, and keeping things up to date. Even with the Diablo 3 announcement, there has hardly been anything new happening in there, I mean it's kinda hard to do before the game comes out, but still. I view a moderator/sup mod as somebody being able to keep things new, fresh, interesting. If you aren't posting anything new or trying out new stuff, then what is your point at all?

Also, Spector has spurts of activity, he's off and off and off again with weekly rotations. Other that that he's an okay guy, not getting involved in Drama too much.














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Posted 2008-09-11, 04:32 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "A moderator shouldn't just moderate..."
im not dismissing his inactivity i believe that, but what would you do in order to bring activity to the diablo 2 section - short of writing us a free public dupe method, and a bot that can run more then 10 games per hour? the game is so flippin old its impossible to spark interest in the damn thing lol...
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Posted 2008-09-11, 04:35 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "im not dismissing his inactivity i..."
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im not dismissing his inactivity i believe that, but what would you do in order to bring activity to the diablo 2 section - short of writing us a free public dupe method, and a bot that can run more then 10 games per hour? the game is so flippin old its impossible to spark interest in the damn thing lol...
I'm actually more talking about... Diablo 3. And yes I agree Diablo 2 is pretty much dead, however there will probably be millions getting Diablo 3 once it comes out much like WoW, so why not try and tap into it somehow? I'm not the moderator of the boards, but if I were it would be pretty simple to do so, anything at all to make activity could be done, but isn't.

I'm just saying, in general.

Most of the rest of the picks in the main thread seem okay. I wouldn't really mind anyone off the list taking the spot, but it's debateable who would be the best














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Posted 2008-09-11, 06:55 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post "Supreme Moderator Nomination Discussion..."
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Number three for me would be Thanatos. Even though he's essentially a douchebag, he's also decently level-headed and mostly care-free about drama at Zelaron, aside from being very anti-me. He's an old schooler that knows how things are at Zelaron, and most likely could do good things as a Supreme Moderator.
I'm actually quite surprised you nominated me. And, for the record, I don't hate you. Sometimes you do very questionable things for somebody with the moderator position. It's my understanding that a Moderator on a forum is a main representative of the community. New members look at people in charge for support, guidance, example. Now, I'm not saying this is you, but if you're acting like an asshole to existing members, why would any new member want to stay? I wouldn't want to join a forum where I'm getting abused and harassed by staff, of all people.

I'll admit at times I can be a douchebag, but it's all in good fun. Honestly, I don't dislike anybody here; I come here because A. I'm addicted; I have a very addictive personality and I've been here for 6 years now, I've put in so much here there's no reason to quit. B. It helps me pass the time during work. I get on Zelaron at least 3 - 4 times daily during work hours (9:00 am - 5:30 pm EST) just to check up on what's going on. And C. I've grown to consider some of you guys my friends.

Zelaron has helped me get through some tough times in my life (all of my teenage years have been spent here - and you know being a teenager is traumatizing lol), I think it's time I give back to Zelaron with whatever way I can. I really do think I'll be a good moderator, if given the chance. And hey if I screw up, you can always take it away from me.

Anyhow, I don't know why I ended up typing all of that.. WKFF was my vote anyway.
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Posted 2008-09-11, 06:58 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "I'm actually quite surprised you..."
i nominate to demod ka
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Posted 2008-09-11, 07:10 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "i nominate to demod ka ;)"
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i nominate to demod ka
I cancel your "de-modination" by nominating to de demod K_A
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Posted 2009-07-07, 09:41 AM in reply to Wallow's post starting "I cancel your "de-modination" by..."
So, what's new?














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Posted 2009-07-07, 11:50 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post "Supreme Moderator Nomination Discussion..."
I nominate Skittles
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Posted 2009-07-07, 12:04 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "I nominate Skittles"
Are you in cahoots with the authorities? Do you really wants us shut down?

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Jessifer or Senesia - both active, both level-headed - most other members will feel a bit of pressure from some quarter. I don't think there's much of a hole that needs to be filled (Chruser, WW and I are the ones that deal with most of the spam and bots these days, and that's about all there is to do. Spec joins in every now and then for his forum, but WKFF has done precious little recently) either, to be honest.
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Posted 2009-07-07, 12:08 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Are you in cahoots with the..."
I am voting against Sensia, that is all.














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Posted 2009-07-07, 01:12 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I am voting against Sensia, that is all."
Yeah, if it's Jess vs Senesia, Jess should get it easy.
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Posted 2009-07-07, 01:16 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Yeah, if it's Jess vs Senesia, Jess..."
And why is a new one even needed?
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Posted 2009-07-07, 01:24 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "And why is a new one even needed?"
Good question, what's new?














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Posted 2009-07-07, 01:37 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Good question, what's new?"
Keeping up with the spam is a full time job.
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Posted 2009-07-07, 01:51 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Keeping up with the spam is a full time..."
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Keeping up with Skurai is a full time job.
It really is. Let's mandate registration to play in the arcade and mandate 4 posts a day to be able to play the arcade.














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Posted 2009-07-07, 02:06 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "It really is. Let's mandate..."
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It really is. Let's mandate registration to play in the arcade and mandate 4 posts a day to be able to play the arcade.
D3v, I've just come to inform you that your post is unnecessarily long. By suggesting that we require 4 posts per day, it is implied that registration would be required as well, since you have to register to post.
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Posted 2009-07-07, 02:19 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "D3v, I've just come to inform you that..."
I don't really see a need for a new mod either. But I'll be voting against myself as well.
Some says a mod should spark activity and contribute to the forums.. in most cases a member can do pretty much the same as a mod in that respect.
Aside from banning members, viewing IP, moving/editing/closing threads/posts, a member can do pretty much everything a mod does.
If people don't listen to or take actions on your ideas, that's not really going to change just because your modship.


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