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Legal Marijuana, the time is now.
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Posted 2009-02-26, 11:44 AM
I think the time for Marijuana legalization/decriminalization is upon us, there have been many news stories lately, including that of California's govenor pushing to legalize marijuana and tax it to help their tax deficit. Could marijuana finally be pushed to the forefront of politics?


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Posted 2009-02-26, 12:05 PM in reply to D3V's post "Legal Marijuana, the time is now."
Attourney General Eric Holder says that now the DEA will not raid Medicinal compounds that contain Marijuana

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Posted 2009-02-26, 12:54 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Attourney General Eric Holder says that..."
Change.gov's #1 issue facing america

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Posted 2009-02-27, 04:01 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Change.gov's #1 issue facing america ..."
Legalizing it ain't gonna do shit... people will still abuse it, just like Tylenol and Nyquil...

As far as the monetary aspects, I totally agree. I heard on a radio show (AM radio at work...) that Marijuana is a 14 billion dollar a year business... know what the next in line is? Vegetables at 8 billion... and that's ALL vegetables! Also, it'll increase the police efficiency, because they won't have to worry about marijuana raids, they could focus on domestic abuse and child endangerment situations.

And for the record, I have seen the change it causes in people. You can say all you want that it doesn't affect you, but it does. And if you say it's not addicting... seriously? Look yourself in the eye, in a mirror, and say that without laughing. Not addicting? Then why do you feel the need to make it into clothes, lotions, food, and drink! I have nothing against people who use it, all my brothers being users, 2 of which now have valid medical cards, but I can say that for you to deny that it affects you is absurd.

Also, people think legalizing it is going to automatically mean society is going to be reduced to lazy people sitting all day at home doing nothing and smoking pot. WRONG! Even if it is legal, your employer still has the final say on whether or not a positive THC reading is reason enough to fire you. If he has reason to believe you were doing it at work, or an accident occurs, and you test positive, you can't prove you didn't smoke that day, because the stuff stays in your system for 30 days or something like that.

Another thing callers to the radio station were worried about is the consistency of quality of the product. If you don't smoke it, don't worry about it! As for the people that do, for some ungodly reason, and in some ungodly way, they seem to be able to tell the difference between Blueberry Bubble and Blueberry Yum Yum... but I figure, that's the same way an auto enthusiast can look at an engine block and determine if it's Honda, Mitsubishi, or Nissan. Or the way a nerd can see a motherboard and tell if it's a Pentium chipset, AMD chipset, or whatever else differentiates motherboards. Plus, you kinda hafta know. If someone tries to sell you stress (Honda, Pentium I) and you are paying for God's Gift (Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, Pentium Core i7), I think you would know the difference. So let the comsumers worry about quality problems.

So, to paraphrase, and so you only have to read this last part instead of all that jibberish, I am against the use of it, but it ain't my life, it's yours. The sheer financial impact it would bestow us is definately worthy of some form of government regulation. The consumers can deal with quality issues. And Society will not collapse because of the legalization of an herb already being used/abused in circulation.
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Posted 2009-03-08, 10:25 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Legalizing it ain't gonna do shit......"
personally i don't really care if you smoke marijuana or not.

So long as you do your job, and leave me the fuck alone.

We're cool.
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Posted 2009-03-09, 01:23 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Legalizing it ain't gonna do shit......"
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Legalizing it ain't gonna do shit... people will still abuse it, just like Tylenol and Nyquil...

As far as the monetary aspects, I totally agree. I heard on a radio show (AM radio at work...) that Marijuana is a 14 billion dollar a year business... know what the next in line is? Vegetables at 8 billion... and that's ALL vegetables! Also, it'll increase the police efficiency, because they won't have to worry about marijuana raids, they could focus on domestic abuse and child endangerment situations.

And for the record, I have seen the change it causes in people. You can say all you want that it doesn't affect you, but it does. And if you say it's not addicting... seriously? Look yourself in the eye, in a mirror, and say that without laughing. Not addicting? Then why do you feel the need to make it into clothes, lotions, food, and drink! I have nothing against people who use it, all my brothers being users, 2 of which now have valid medical cards, but I can say that for you to deny that it affects you is absurd.

Also, people think legalizing it is going to automatically mean society is going to be reduced to lazy people sitting all day at home doing nothing and smoking pot. WRONG! Even if it is legal, your employer still has the final say on whether or not a positive THC reading is reason enough to fire you. If he has reason to believe you were doing it at work, or an accident occurs, and you test positive, you can't prove you didn't smoke that day, because the stuff stays in your system for 30 days or something like that.

Another thing callers to the radio station were worried about is the consistency of quality of the product. If you don't smoke it, don't worry about it! As for the people that do, for some ungodly reason, and in some ungodly way, they seem to be able to tell the difference between Blueberry Bubble and Blueberry Yum Yum... but I figure, that's the same way an auto enthusiast can look at an engine block and determine if it's Honda, Mitsubishi, or Nissan. Or the way a nerd can see a motherboard and tell if it's a Pentium chipset, AMD chipset, or whatever else differentiates motherboards. Plus, you kinda hafta know. If someone tries to sell you stress (Honda, Pentium I) and you are paying for God's Gift (Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, Pentium Core i7), I think you would know the difference. So let the comsumers worry about quality problems.

So, to paraphrase, and so you only have to read this last part instead of all that jibberish, I am against the use of it, but it ain't my life, it's yours. The sheer financial impact it would bestow us is definately worthy of some form of government regulation. The consumers can deal with quality issues. And Society will not collapse because of the legalization of an herb already being used/abused in circulation.

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Posted 2009-03-09, 06:51 PM in reply to D3V's post "Legal Marijuana, the time is now."
So, let me get this right...


We get a Black President. Marijuana is legal.
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Posted 2009-03-10, 02:32 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "So, let me get this right... We..."
If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.














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Posted 2009-03-10, 06:47 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "If you knew anything about what you are..."
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If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.
so let me get this straight...

we get a Black president...
the states make Marijuana Legal...
didn't change my opinion at all, fanboy.
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Posted 2009-03-10, 11:58 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "so let me get this straight... we..."
Yeah... the president doesn't have any say as far as ABC goes.. which is Alcoholic Beverage Control... in the way it should/needs to regulate it's product. It's all state managed. It follows the rules and regulations that the state sets. How is this relevant? Because this is the most likely form of regulation that marijuana will see. To many people it is considered the same as alcohol. Or porn. And as such, each state has it's own methods of controlling the distrubution and limits of consumption for each product.

Also, as I stated earlier, Marijuana is a 14 BILLION dollar a year industry. The state of California is in a 42 BILLION dollar deficit, yet we just got nailed with higher taxes. With simple cuts, and relocation of wasted funds, we could save 36 BILLION in 1 year. Guess what? That 14 BILLION all of a sudden looks pretty tempting... but of course California isn't going to make cuts, but that's a horse of a different color...
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Posted 2009-03-13, 11:20 PM in reply to Draco2003's post starting "Yeah... the president doesn't have any..."
Yea, the legalization of marijuana is estimated to bring in over $1 billion in tax revenue for California alone. That's a fraction of their budget shortfall, but it'll still give some much-needed revenue. I wish Kentucky would legalize casinoes. It would bring some tax revenues back home that's being given to neighboring states. I'm sure those states pay lobbyists to lobby against it here.
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Posted 2009-04-03, 09:52 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "If you knew anything about what you are..."
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If you knew anything about what you are talking about you would realize that the states control the legality of marijuana/alcohol. Dipshit.
That's only half true. See Gonzales v. Raich.
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Posted 2009-04-03, 01:06 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "The case you posted does not change the..."
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The case you posted does not change the fact of what i've already said.
You said that states control legality of a drug. Presented alone, this is misleading. It is very possible for a drug to be legal under state law and illegal under national law. In this sense, states do not fully control the legality of drugs.
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Posted 2009-04-02, 07:31 PM in reply to D3V's post "Legal Marijuana, the time is now."
[QUOTE=D3V;667266]I think the time for Marijuana legalization/decriminalization is upon us, there have been many news stories lately, including that of California's govenor pushing to legalize marijuana and tax it to help their tax deficit. Could marijuana finally be pushed to the forefront of politics

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I was just going to give you a warning, but this tips the balance. Enjoy your holiday.
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