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Posted 2002-11-30, 04:44 PM
Zelaron: are you aware of how "simulated randomness" works?
bwjiz: err.. no
Zelaron: generally, NOTHING is random on a computer
Zelaron: randomness does not exist, only simulated randomness
bwjiz: why isnt anything random?
Zelaron: for instance, if you would want to pick a "random" number ouf of 100, you would have to find something local to use
Zelaron: the most common thing to use is the computer clock, calculating its uptime in miliseconds
Zelaron: if the ms counter ends with the numbers 95, your random number could be just that, 95, or if it's 42, your random pick your be 42
Zelaron: of course, this isn't random, but since the counter changes so rapidly, it would seem like it's random
bwjiz: hmm
bwjiz: interesting
Zelaron: of course, there are ways to trick with this, for instance, by stopping your computer clock (which would usually cause your computer to crash, but it could work)
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: now, there seems to be no way around this, and to get real randomness just isn't possible, even in theory
Zelaron: now, in real life, things just don't seem as "random" as they should be, some things are just affected by "destiny"
Zelaron: a guy who wins a game of russian roulette tends to be more lucky than others in some cases, even though he really shouldn't be
Zelaron: so my guess is that there is a computer controlling life that tends to mess up every now and then
Zelaron: =P
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: or the programmers who made us just did a bad work on the random function
bwjiz: riiiiiight..
Zelaron: oh, shut up
you can't prove me wrong
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Posted 2002-11-30, 04:54 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
rofl he's right
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Posted 2002-11-30, 05:29 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
riiiiiight..
It's physically impossible for you to lick your elbow when intact to your miserable body.
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Posted 2002-11-30, 05:34 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
Exactley what I said.
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Posted 2002-11-30, 05:42 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
I was thinking about moving this to the Conspiracy Forum, but it's not really a conspiracy after all.
"Stephen Wolfram is the creator of Mathematica and is widely regarded as the most important innovator in scientific and technical computing today." - Stephen Wolfram
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Posted 2002-11-30, 05:44 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
heh we understand it!
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Posted 2002-11-30, 07:05 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
He had the exact same conversation with me.
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Posted 2002-11-30, 07:16 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
It was based on the same thing, but it wasn't the exact same conversation.
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Posted 2002-11-30, 07:25 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
yeah, it was much shorter...but it was on the same subject.
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Posted 2002-11-30, 07:32 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
So what if we get trojan'd?
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Posted 2002-11-30, 11:59 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
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Originally posted by Jamesadin
He had the exact same conversation with me.
My conversations with Chruser consist of:

Me: I got a question.
Me 10 mins later: Are you alive or just out Chrusin?

2 days later:
Him: Hey there

Me 2 hours later: I got a question.
Back to top.

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Posted 2002-12-01, 04:01 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
I just randomly decided to read this thread.......isnt it amazing! WOW
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Posted 2002-12-01, 05:24 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
Haha, I get the same thing Adrena. Or 4 in the morning I'll tend to get a random message with lots of hypothetical term usage.
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Posted 2002-12-01, 08:04 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
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Originally posted by JiN-RaiDeN
Haha, I get the same thing Adrena. Or 4 in the morning I'll tend to get a random message with lots of hypothetical term usage.
He's been doing this to me since 2001 >_<
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Posted 2002-12-01, 08:49 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
Zelaron is definitely jocking the copy and paste feature.
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Posted 2002-12-02, 01:42 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
Hey, its there for a reason. You know, theres a personality test thingy that psychs use based on random number. they tell you to pick a random number between 1 and 23 or something, and analyze why you picked the number you picked.
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Posted 2002-12-02, 06:13 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
Chruser always has wierd shit to say/bring up on aim... =0
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Posted 2002-12-05, 08:36 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
assuming he ever responds


KagomJack said:
My girth isn't anything to bitch and moan about in long, elaborate paragraphs.
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Posted 2002-12-05, 09:17 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
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Originally posted by Jizmo
Zelaron: are you aware of how "simulated randomness" works?
bwjiz: err.. no
Zelaron: generally, NOTHING is random on a computer
Zelaron: randomness does not exist, only simulated randomness
bwjiz: why isnt anything random?
Zelaron: for instance, if you would want to pick a "random" number ouf of 100, you would have to find something local to use
Zelaron: the most common thing to use is the computer clock, calculating its uptime in miliseconds
Zelaron: if the ms counter ends with the numbers 95, your random number could be just that, 95, or if it's 42, your random pick your be 42
Zelaron: of course, this isn't random, but since the counter changes so rapidly, it would seem like it's random
bwjiz: hmm
bwjiz: interesting
Zelaron: of course, there are ways to trick with this, for instance, by stopping your computer clock (which would usually cause your computer to crash, but it could work)
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: now, there seems to be no way around this, and to get real randomness just isn't possible, even in theory
Zelaron: now, in real life, things just don't seem as "random" as they should be, some things are just affected by "destiny"
Zelaron: a guy who wins a game of russian roulette tends to be more lucky than others in some cases, even though he really shouldn't be
Zelaron: so my guess is that there is a computer controlling life that tends to mess up every now and then
Zelaron: =P
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: or the programmers who made us just did a bad work on the random function
bwjiz: riiiiiight..
Zelaron: oh, shut up
you can't prove me wrong
heh i have never gotten this sort of thing from chruser b4...
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Posted 2002-12-06, 12:19 AM in reply to Thanatos's post "Say... what the?"
I am going to randomly pick a beer out of the fridge and go to bed.........and i can prove it.
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