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View Poll Results: Sephiroth...?
Jenova's puppet 4 66.67%
...did what he wanted 2 33.33%
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Posted 2003-10-23, 03:19 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Jeez if you read the script you can understand that he had much more then blood he found out about.
He started going crazy when Cloud asked if Sephiroth was built using the same process of these monster in the tube.

He actualy found out he was a Cetra and that the ppl now living on the world abused of his ppl, also his mother and stole the planet.
They EXTIGUISHED Sephiroth RACE ! (remember how Aeris is a Cetra too and her mother dumped her to someone to keep her safe?)
Thats what the planet done to the Cetra !
This all together is more then enought to drive someone to the other side.
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Posted 2003-10-23, 03:23 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
ahahahahahahaa!!!! who cares it was a good ass game either way.
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Posted 2003-10-24, 11:44 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Well here the final peice of the puzzle that proove all.


Cloud levitated up all the way to the top and he is actually controlled
by Sephiroth.

Rufus: Who... was that?

Hojo: He's a Sephiroth clone I created after the real Sephiroth died five years ago. Jenova cells and Mako, with my knowledge and skills, have been combined with science and nature to bring him to life. ...I'm not wild about the failure part, but the Jenova Reunion Theory has now been proven. You see, even if Jenova's body is dismembered, it will eventually become one again. That's what is meant by Jenova's Reunion to start. Five years have passed, and now the Clones have began to return. I thought the Clones would begin to gather at Midgar where Jenova is stored. But my predictions were not entirely correct. Jenova itself began to move away from the Shinra Building. But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it was all Sephiroth's doing. Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the Lifestream. He wants to manipulate the Clones itself.

And well after you read that you will understand how his power is very mighty in FF7. And that Jenova isnt that much other then a Cell donor heh.
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Posted 2003-10-25, 12:07 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
*SIGH* He wasn't even a Cetra. He was a lab experiment. Had he known that Lucrecia was his mother and that he was nothing more than a human(considering his genetic code) with some special powers granted to him by the cells of a space monster that craves destruction. Isn't it funny that the very that DESTROYED the Cetra is convincing Sephiroth that HE IS a Cetra.

This ends all. Sephiroth became curious about his past. He sought information. He found it in the undertground lab. He read about how Professor Gast THOUGHT that Jenova was a Cetra. He concluded that Jenova was a Cetra and that he was her biological son.

He concluded on the evidence provided in the books that he was the last Cetra. The information was false however. Jenova merely strengthened the thought. Making it seem the truth. Even if Cloud and the others had tried to tell Sephiroth, Jenova wouldn't let him listen.
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Posted 2003-10-25, 12:53 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Your saying "the very that DESTROYED the Cetra is convincing Sephiroth that HE IS a Cetra."
Who are you talking about ?

Actualy doing more research your right on 1 thing it s what he isnt an ancient and he know it. But all the rest is all correct here is more.

Sephiroth know what he is. He doesnt need convincing.


Aeris: Sephiroth is different. He's not an Ancient.

Cloud: He shouldn't be able to find the Promised Land.

Sephiroth: ...Ah, but I have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I
became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients. And soon, I will create the future.

Aeris: I won't let you do it! The future is not only yours!

Sephiroth: Ha, ha, ha... I wonder? Wake up!

Cloud: Shut up!

Cloud's controlled soul appeared.

Sephiroth: There, Cloud... good boy.

Cloud: The... Noise... Wa...... aaaa...... aa...

Cloud's controlled by Sephiroth and gave the Black Materia to him.

Sephiroth: ......Well done.

Sephiroth disappeared. Later.
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Posted 2003-10-25, 01:20 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
I remembered that. I have a good memory for FFs.

Jenova was "The Crisis From the Skies" It is shown during the recordings in the litle house in Icicle made by Professor Gast who was interviewing Ifalna, Aeris's mother. The subjects included The Cris from the Skies, WEAPON and somethings about Aeris.
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Posted 2003-10-25, 01:25 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Ok and what does it have to do whit anything ?
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Posted 2003-10-25, 11:18 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Its just funny that the thing that destroyed the Cetra fooled Sephiroth into believing he was a Cetra.
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Posted 2003-10-25, 11:35 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Jenova aint making Sephiroth beleive he is a Cetra and he aint beleiving he is one either. Where you get that idea ?


Aeris: Sephiroth is different. He's not an Ancient.

Cloud: He shouldn't be able to find the Promised Land.

Sephiroth: ...Ah, but I have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I
became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients. And soon, I will create the future.


Jenova aint making any one beleiving anything it s just like any puppet working for Sephiroth it is one of the reason why you fight Jenova Before sephiroth too. Everything i posted show that Jenova have no control over Sephiroth. Else Jenova would have wanted to be protected by Sephiroth but he was the one controlling the other and this is why you get to fight Jenova before him.

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Posted 2003-10-25, 12:14 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Well he was all about taking the planet back from "those people" He constantly refered to them as if they were different. So he thought he was a Cetra. Didn't he say something about taking the planet back?
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Posted 2003-10-26, 01:07 PM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
I just shown you he wasnt a Cetra.

Kuja said:
Jenova aint making Sephiroth beleive he is a Cetra/Ancient and he aint beleiving he is one either. Where you get that idea ?


Aeris: Sephiroth is different. He's not an Ancient.

Cloud: He shouldn't be able to find the Promised Land.

Sephiroth: ...Ah, but I have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I
became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients. And soon, I will create the future.
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Posted 2003-10-28, 03:49 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
Kuja`s #1 said:
Didn't he say something about taking the planet back?
Yes cause he doesnt think it belong to the ppl that have it right now since they stole it from the cetra and they been abusing of the planet.

A soldier fighting for what he beleive in.
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Posted 2003-11-18, 08:00 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post "Sephiroth, his own man or a puppet?"
i say he did what he want and said the hell with withtrhe rest.
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