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Posted 2006-02-04, 09:17 AM
Yesterday, I woke up in my room and went to class. I get this frantic phone call during class that tells me that a friend I have in my dorm has just passed away in his sleep. I immediately leave class without telling my teacher and run back to the dorm. The night before, I had spent time with him. We had played Halo untill i decided I wanted to get drunk so we ended about 9. He went to play poker with some of his buddies and he brought back my controller that i left in his room about midnight. I was wasted and said something about going to bed and he said that he was going to sleep too. He then said that he would see me tomorrow.
I arrived back at the dorm and they said that he passed on and we were having a mass for him at 6 that night. I cried for a while, saw a priest to try and get some explanations and had a friend of mine that works for the police try and find out what happened.
I don't know if all of you know, but I lost 2 friends this summer to a car accident and was hurt pretty bad. Now with this friend gone, thats 3 friends in less then 6 months. Why does God take away good people? I've been thinking that he doesn't care about anybody and just chooses, or that we are in hell right now and that good people are taken from this world to his heavenly realm becuase it is thier time. I'm just saying that all these terrible people are out there planning on killing hundreds of people and they just don't die in thier sleep. Its always the good ones. What do you guys believe? Discuss please.

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Posted 2006-02-04, 01:15 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
Well just something i have noticed is that assholes live forever. It is pretty much a proven fact think about it the drunk driver doesnt always die but the people he hits always seem to. So i have resolved some time ago to become and asshole so that i out live all the nice people.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 01:31 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
Well I don't believe in some being that decides when people die, that's silly, but as for drunk drivers living through an accident that kills other innocent people, I do believe in karma, and it's a bitch.

People die when they die, there doesn't have to be an explaination for it, it just happens, whether it's a good person or a bad person, we're all mortals and we all die sometime. I don't see how you could think there's less of a chance for a good person to die than a bad person.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 04:17 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
Sorry to hear that Gruesome.. Is there any preliminary findings on the cause of death? Heart failure, OD, etc? It's pretty unheard of that a 20 year old just dies in his sleep, so there has to be some sort of explanation.

Death is a part of life and it sucks. Keep us informed as to what happened. Sorry again buddy.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 06:20 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
Man. That sucks. I know what you're going through though. A friend of mine died in her sleep a couple of years back of a heart failure, and she was a great person too. It's tough for a while, but life moves on. I hope things start to look up soon.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 07:28 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "Man. That sucks. I know what you're..."
About 2 weeks two of my co-worker's friends died in a car accident. Thing is, it didn't affect her too much because guess how they died? Driver was trying to do a line of coke on his dash and then it flipped into a lake. Talk about shit dude.

Sadly, I literally did serve them their last meal when they came into Hardees that night.

All in all, life sucks. And as for the God aspect, in the NIV Bible it says that he works all things for the good of those who love him.
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Posted 2006-02-04, 07:39 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "About 2 weeks two of my co-worker's..."
I'm not going to get into the religious aspect of why people die, because given the scenario I would probably sound like a heartless asshole if I tried discussing that with you at the moment. However, I am sorry that your friend passed away in his sleep, and it really does suck that so many good people die young. My condolences to you, his friends and his family. I'm not definitely not going to be able to give you any answers like a priest would or anything like that, but if you need to talk about it I'm here for you bro . . . hit me with a PM or however you want to do it.

Again, I'm really sorry that you have to go through this . . just hang tough man.
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Posted 2006-02-05, 08:02 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "Sorry to hear that Gruesome.. Is there..."
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Sorry to hear that Gruesome.. Is there any preliminary findings on the cause of death? Heart failure, OD, etc? It's pretty unheard of that a 20 year old just dies in his sleep, so there has to be some sort of explanation.

Death is a part of life and it sucks. Keep us informed as to what happened. Sorry again buddy.
The police report says that it was heart failure, but that it was weird cause he was heathy. Shit just happens i guess.

Thanks to everybody that have written something nice to ease my pain. It means alot.
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Posted 2006-02-05, 11:17 AM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
Using "god" as a scapegoat for your problems isn't going to make you feel better. Just be glad it wasn't you.
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Posted 2006-02-05, 12:55 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Using "god" as a scapegoat for your..."
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Using "god" as a scapegoat for your problems isn't going to make you feel better.
Well, it works for him so lay the fuck off.
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Posted 2006-02-05, 03:13 PM in reply to gruesomeBODY's post "Why does GOD do this?"
wow...... im sorry man.....maybe God has a sort of ripple effect caused by his death that has a good outcome. i know you don't know me very well and vice-versa, but i mean it when i say i want to help in practically any way i can. heck, i'll bet we're all here for ya man. if you need a complete noob and probably a stranger to talk to as well i'll try to be on the board for ya dude. you just hang in there. im sure that even though the horizon seems dark, it just means that a sunrise is a-comin', there is a light at the end of the tunnel for your friend, it's just that he's reached it before you did, but you'll see him again sooner or later, so hold on, man. go live out your life in memory of the ones you've lost, for you still live on. :') but do rejoice that he is with the Father(i'm guessing both of you guys are religious, and if not, sorry) and probably having a lot of fun up there.

btw think of the loss this way: even though im sure it was fun down here on earth, he's having such a blast up there w/ God, so go ahead and mourn his passing, but you'll see him again sometime in the future, and then you both will be having fun for eternity
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Posted 2006-02-05, 08:14 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Well, it works for him so lay the fuck..."
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Well, it works for him so lay the fuck off.
Blaming occurances on "god" is merely a roundabout form of denial and the inability to cope. You can blame things on "fate" if you want, as long as you realize that there is no predetermined plan for existence. He died because his heart failed. He may have been born with a weak heart but it was never diagnosed. Maybe he ate too much junk food. Regardless of the circumstances, that is not divine intervention, it is just unfortunate.

To be brusque, blaming god makes you look weak. You need to become disillusioned and realize that nothing is controlling your life but yourself, your upbringing, your culture, and your society. All of these factors may seem random but can be easily explained by way of your parents. All actions and consequences can be explained. If you continue to pretend that someone with ultimate power did this to your friend, how can you truly cope? Is it fair to your friend?

My point, gruesome, stems from your thread title. God did not kill your friend. A series of unfortunate events killed your friend. Perhaps it all began when one of his father's sperm entered his mother's egg and that particular sperm had a chromosome defect leading up to heart problems. Anything could be at fault, really. It is your job to accept this, and not pretend that he was killed.

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Posted 2006-02-05, 08:16 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Blaming occurances on "god" is merely a..."
I must agree with Grav on this one.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 01:44 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Blaming occurances on "god" is merely a..."
To each their own. Some people actually believe in a higher being, God, and that he controls all aspects of life, including when someone dies. Just because you don't, doesn't make someone else weak. Like you said, upbringing plays a major part in life, and if someone was brought up to think God has a master plan for everyone, then why would that make their thoughts a form of denial?

I'm impartial on the subject, mainly because I need first hand evidence to believe in certain things, but I'm not going to call someone else weak or in denial because their beliefs are different than mine.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:27 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "To each their own. Some people..."
I think his point was blaming a "God", whether he exists or not, for one's problems is not a good way of dealing with them. I could be incorrect.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:30 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I think his point was blaming a "God",..."
That was my point, I just went into more detail than I originally intended to.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:52 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "That was my point, I just went into..."
Take it HERE guys.

I am sorry for your loss, I know what it is like to lose a friend unexpectedly... I am sure many of us have, actually.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 04:56 PM in reply to Jamesadin's post starting "Take it HERE..."
Technically that thread has expired. I mean, the last post was 3 years ago.
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Posted 2006-02-06, 08:22 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "Technically that thread has expired. I..."
Here is a spoiler






There is no God
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Posted 2006-02-06, 09:25 PM in reply to Hades-Knight's post starting "Here is a spoiler There is..."
Im just going to say that believing in a higher being, such as God, is a great way to move past shit like this. It gives you an out. It works for me and might not work for you. Quite honesyly, I dont care if you believe in the devil as long as you are happy and it gives you a way to cope with the loss. Do u honestly want me to believe that the cause is because of this tragedy is because of unfortunate events? Who decides how these unfortunate events occur or who it happens to? Plus, if you really think about it, then why do we exist then? Why do we bleed when we are pricked and why do we sweat if its hot? I know your going to say its the body's way of dealing with certain problems, but what i believe is that God makes our bodies and we are the ones that control them. If something bad happens to them, then for the most part, we are responsible. But for a persons heart to just stop, when they dont do drugs, aren't overweight and workout regularly, is a sign that someone or something is out there fucking with us.
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