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PS3 Not until 2007?!
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Posted 2005-08-17, 02:12 AM
According to a ceratin "Wedbrush Morgan Securities" the PS3 may not be realeased until 2007, all due to how well the Xbox 360 is doing. They are basically saying that Sony want to wait a year to destroy the Xbox 360 by lowering PS2 prices (and so prolonging the life of the PS2, and making more profit on it) before releasing the PS3 in late 2006 or early 2007 and dash Microsofts hopes of becoming king of the computer console market.

Nice tactic, but do we wanna wait?!

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According to Wedbush Morgan Securities, the PS3 may be delayed until 2007 if the Xbox 360 is not doing well. Although it has not been said where the PS3 will release first, it is suppose to release in Spring 2006.
Wedbush Morgan Securities is saying that if the right circumstances are met, the release date of the PS3 could be pushed back until after the December 2006. In a memo sent to investers, senior Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter set up a possible scenario for the delayed PS3 release.

The current generation Xbox price drops to $99 after the Xbox 360 release and Sony would drop the price of the PS2 to $99. The 2 components in that pricing strategy is the price drop of the Playstation 2 would distract people from the Xbox 360 launch, Pachter stated: "We believe that the company will attempt to disrupt the Xbox 360 launch with a price cut, and as a result may succeed in diverting attention away from the higher-priced next-generation console." A PS2 price drop to $99 would still result in a profit for each console sold as the manufacturing cost of the PS2 is less then $99. According to Michael Pachter, new consoles can be noteworthy, due to the fact that at the beginning of the consoles lifecycle they are sold at a loss. Pachter also noted that the PS2 will cost less to make then to sell, it would be very good for Sony to extend the life of the PS2 because that means profit for every console sold.

If Microsoft puts the Xbox price to $99 (which will be a loss to Microsoft according to Pachter), Sony would be in a clear win-win situation. A cornerstone of Pachter's theory was is Sony does not want to disapoint the the buyers and the retailers by not having many units in high-demand weeks of this coming December. Pachter said, "We believe that Sony suffered the ignominy of being unable to satisfy holiday [2004] demand in order to increase its gross profits over the short term."

If the PS3 launches in the 4th quarter of 2006 and suffers the same situation, Sony would be embarrassed for the second consecutive year. With no PS3's in the channel, there is no chance of a shortage in stock. The most important part in Pachter's argument is if the Xbox 360 does well early Sony will have to be working extremely hard to get the PS3 out as soon as possible. However: "Should Microsoft fail to garner sufficient software support to gain an insurmountable lead, we think that there is a possibility that the PS3 launch will slip into early 2007." After the distribution of the memo not to long ago, Pachter emphasized that he "posted the thought as an option value for Sony." Continuing, he said, "I think the 360 will do quite well."

The article is taken, once again, from www.ps3portal.com
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Posted 2005-08-17, 02:15 AM in reply to Lenny's post "PS3 Not until 2007?!"
Lenny said:
Sony want to wait a year to destroy the Xbox 360 by lowering PS2 prices (and so prolonging the life of the PS2, and making more profit on it) before releasing the PS3 in late 2006 or early 2007 and dash Microsofts hopes of becoming king of the computer console market.
Yes, because that worked so well for Nintendo with the N64...
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Posted 2005-08-17, 02:51 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Yes, because that worked so well for..."
If they can pull it off then Microsoft will suffer an amazing Black Eye, and we all wanna see that don't we?!

If they don't pull it off, well, serves them right for taking so long about it. I seem to remember reading (when the PS3 was gonna come out in Spring '06) that Microsoft were planning on dropping the Xbox 360 price at that time.

Talking about Microsoft, I don't know if anybody has heard, but an Australian programmer has released bits of code of a virus that he has developed for Vista...already! Just over a year before it comes out and it's already under threat...
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Posted 2005-08-17, 08:10 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "If they can pull it off then Microsoft..."
Lenny said:
If they can pull it off then Microsoft will suffer an amazing Black Eye, and we all wanna see that don't we?!
Not when we want to 360 to suceed and bring forth another Halo.


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Posted 2005-08-17, 08:31 AM in reply to JRwakebord's post starting "Not when we want to 360 to suceed and..."
I personally can't see what all the fuss about Halo is about. I've played through most of Halo 2 at a friends house and it doesn't seem that special to me.

Don't worry though, the Xbox 360 comes out way before the PS3, as will Halo 3 (probably) so you'll have ample tme to buy it, try it, beat it and so on before Sony try to look clever by crushing Microsoft.

Chances are you'd also be able to download an emulator for the 360 and download Halo 3...heck, it might even come out on PC for you all...just buy a pad that connects to the computer that is like your Xbox one. And you can get them, believe me.
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Posted 2005-08-17, 08:37 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "I personally can't see what all the..."
While the single player campaign can be fun, that's not what keeps me playing Halo. It's the multiplayer over Xbox Live. Playing with gruesome, Titus, Tidus, S2 AM, glory, sue, steve, hurt, and the rest is what makes it so much damn fun. And if I were to download an emulator and an illegal copy of one of the Halos, then I wouldn't be able to connect to Xbox Live, and what would be the point?


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Posted 2005-08-17, 08:42 PM in reply to Lenny's post "PS3 Not until 2007?!"
If PS2 didnt fail so badly in Multiplayer i might give a shit... 360 all the way. I mean, if I was into single player games like FF and stuff... man would I love the PS2, but i dont
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Posted 2005-08-18, 03:25 AM in reply to Acer's post starting "If PS2 didnt fail so badly in..."
Then the PS3 should suit you. Out of the box it can have up to 7 bluetooth controllers connected at once. And they say they're gonna make a real effort with playing online etc...but we'll just have to see about that.

And 3 ethernet ports (each 1 gigabit)...connect lots of PS3's together...say 4, times the 7 controllers...you could have the whole street racing you on things like Gran Turismo, each person in a seperate car.
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Posted 2005-08-18, 03:48 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Then the PS3 should suit you. Out of..."
Wow really, 1 person in each car?!?!?! Im sooo sold now....
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Posted 2005-08-18, 04:06 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "Wow really, 1 person in each car?!?!?!..."
The new version of GT for the PS3 will have more than the 4 cars...the demos show something like 20. If they've programmed it in, then you can have a street of 20 racing nuts each in a separate car racing each other...without having to go online either. You'd just need three consoles and the 20 pads (each nut will probably have his or her own).

Whereas with the Xbox 360, you'd need 5 consoles, each with 4 wired or wireless pads...that is if you can connect a 360 to another 360 and so on.

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Just a little article about the Unreal 4 engine:

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After their Unreal Engine 3 presentation today at the Leipzig Games Show in Germany, Epic's Vice President Mark Rein revealed that the company has been on track to produce the successor to Unreal Engine3. [Ed: Already?]

Mark Rein explained , "People don't realise this but we're already two years into development of Unreal Engine 4. It certainly doesn't have a full team yet, it's just one guy and you can probably guess who that guy is." [Ed: Not really hard to guess, eh Mr.Tim Sweeney?]

Mark Rein added that, "Unreal 4 is totally groundbreaking and totally changes the way games will be done in the future," Rein continued, "I don't expect it to be staffed up as a team for a while. But when people come to work at Epic, they know they're going to be shaping the future of the videogame business."

So according to Epic, only Tim Sweeney is working on the project and that they are hiring more people to up the pace on the new engine. It's surprising how Unreal Engine 3 hasn't even become mainstream and they are already at work on a new one. Speaks volumes about their confidence to rein supreme in the graphic engine wars!

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Posted 2005-08-18, 04:15 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "The new version of GT for the PS3 will..."
Does the TV screen get split 7 ways for you too?
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Posted 2005-08-20, 07:54 AM in reply to Lenny's post "PS3 Not until 2007?!"
This thread seems to have no purposenow...

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Nothing much we didn’t know already. At the end of the presentation, it seemed that Sony might as well release a new trailer or a brief info regarding PS3. It was when this slide came up with a picture of the PS3 console. Everyone thought, “This is it!” but it just happened to be a confirmation with the words, “See You Next Year”.


Thanks Sony, for confirming you’re on track with the release of PS3 in 2006. With that the presentation came to an end and reality hit everyone that it was time to leave. Hopefully, with the upcoming Tokyo Games Show, we might be seeing a lot more of the equation and quite possibly some playable stuff too.
As always, taken from an artilce on www.ps3portal.com
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Posted 2005-09-05, 10:40 PM in reply to Lenny's post "PS3 Not until 2007?!"
I don't mind sticking with PS2.

 
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