Quarter-Finals! Mega Man X vs. Cloud

so you are saying that cloud should not be allowed to cast simply because he is (by opinion i might add) generalized as a nothing but "melee" character? sorry i do not see that as a strong nor valid argument at all Courtesy of the rules.

That comment/issue has already been resolved as a misconception of technique vs spell and has already been treated as discounted. There is a large section of comments that discussed that issue and probably should have been split.

Also, sub-tanks are one of X's main features. He has access to them, and he can and will use them in battles if he so chooses unless a judge states otherwise. There is no reason to continue this argument.

Unless you are a judge and speak for the leaders of the zelaron melee, I really do not see where you come off claiming end of discussion or that "there is no reason to continue this argument."
If as mentioned prior, items are not allowed, and the tanks are arguably items, why is this not open to discussion?
Furthermore, if there is possibly an imbalance (specifically here for X), why shouldn't it be discussed? If there is reasoning for ff characters such as Cloud to be crippled in order for balancing, why then is it not open to discussion to attempt to apply rules to X?

In any case, that argument was really laid to rest before you mentioned it, and probably does not and should not matter any longer. If you had not made your comment, I seriously doubt it would have taken any bearing or have had any more related comments. I had even made my last comment (of a non serious nature) and the one before that, both implying that I really was not going to argue that point any longer.
And this thread has pretty much been declared "done," especially when K_A commented that this thread is getting too long.

Anyways, I will just be waiting for the results to come out and will not be participating any longer. Theres already a new tournament: Dante vs Samus. It has been ~4 days with no participation.

First off, step down from your high and mighty chair, peon.

The argument was most certainly not over as you claimed.

If this is your, "I'm done arguing" post, then I say you have trouble expressing yourself.

im not sure right now.. these rules feel like a whole lot of grey lines.. my head hurts just from the whole technique thing ill get back to you after i start seeing straight

As for where I come off, the fact had been argued. There was no new material on it, and things had been said and re-said. I said there was no reason to discuss it any further because there was no new information therefore, unless sub tanks were disallowed by judges (which, for the record, they have not been disallowed) then they are valid in a battle.

Besides, threads have been stated as being too long numerous times, and that has yet to close any of them.

One more thing! (Jackie Chan Adventures pwn) The reason Final Fantasy characters have been "crippled" is that they are not concentrated characters. They have few distinctions besides their appearance. Final Fantasy X is the best example. If a player takes the time to maximize the potential of the characters, they can all do exactly the same thing. There wouldn't even be a reason to have more than one of them in a tournament as you could just put "Generic FFX Character." This has been stated, explained, and explained again. However, since you posed the question of why X isn't crippled, here is the answer. HE IS X. HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITIES, POWERS, AND SPELLS OF EVERY 10 OTHER CHARCTERS.

First off, step down from your high and mighty chair, peon.

"high and mighty chair"? am i the one declaring what can and cannot be discussed? who are you that i should "bow down" to as a "peon" and hold all your declarations as true?
i hardly see an inquiry against the validity of your right to tell people what arguments should not be continued as using a "high and mighty chair".. especially when your comment left no room for discussion nor opposing opinions

If this is your, "I'm done arguing" post, then I say you have trouble expressing yourself

then maybe i do have trouble expressing myself. because i probably would have made response to the comment Senesia made and i probably would not have used such a relaxed and unserious tone that argued nothing. maybe im expecting too much for that to be seen. i had felt the additional prior comment declaring i really had no more ideas as final.

and if you honestly believed that the argument really would have taken any more bearing then i sincerely apologize
in any case i do not believe you had the right to dictate something that i felt to be much of an "iron fist"
you did not say "probably" or "really" or "no need to".. but rather used a tone of "there _IS NO_ reason".. and that is something that i personally have trouble tolerating

I'm closing this. I know Raziel didn't plan on having this open this long. He took our decisions back when there were only like 10 posts in here, but we thought it would serve better to open a new battle and let this go for a little longer.

Start getting active on the other Semi-Final Battle, and the winner will be announed soon enough.

For the love of God, a winner has been decided!!! Please make a quick stop at the Bracket Thread for the details!!