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Posted 2010-04-23, 12:06 AM in reply to Hayduke's post starting "It seems to me good and evil only..."
That's exactly my point though. People came here to flee religious persecution. Where did we end back up? I can guarantee you eventually (and probably soon, from the look of things) there will be some sort of anti-religion revolution. And I can pretty much guarantee you religion will come back, as long as anti-religion is there. Dualities are essentially "illusions" that drive change. Happiness and sadness, good and evil, right and wrong, hot and cold, whatever. I like to think of it like a Sine wave.



And basically, the harder that people or forces or whatever pull things in one direction (say, up or down), the "noisier" the wave and the stronger the other side will come back. You could say that the "amplitude" of the wave is defined by the strength of the force acting on the wave.

And I'm not suggesting that everyone should just sit around and do nothing. The whole point of the system is to promote change and I think change is a good thing. I just think we are capable of evolving the system to where we can have change in a harmonious way.

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Posted 2010-04-23, 12:36 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "That's exactly my point though. People..."
That seems flawless in theory, but in reality the world has been in a constant decline in almost every way since the dawn of industrial civilization.
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Posted 2010-04-24, 09:58 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "That's exactly my point though. People..."
Holy crap that was awesome...
So, let me see if I get what you said, exactly, K_A.
When one of them is intense (Anti-religion revolution) the other will become be less intense, but in the end, it will wiggle back the opposite way, later (religion comes back afterward)? Or did I get that all wrong?
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Posted 2010-04-24, 10:22 AM in reply to Skurai's post starting "Holy crap that was awesome... :eek:..."
It sounds like you've got the right idea. And basically, I'm saying "harmony" and "peace" are when the wiggles are smaller and smaller (as in, more people pulling toward the center than the extremes.)
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Posted 2010-04-24, 12:36 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "It sounds like you've got the right..."
I feel like the only way your theory could be correct is if the periods in between each peak we're drastically longer. Like over the course of multiple centuries.
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Posted 2010-04-24, 05:58 PM in reply to Hayduke's post starting "I feel like the only way your theory..."
Actually, my theory has gotten even more bizarre lately. I think it's actually like a sine wave with waves in it. The "waves in the wave" would be the period between each wave (which gets longer and longer over time, and then shorter and shorter over time) and the amplitude from one wave to the next (which gets bigger and bigger over time and then smaller and smaller over time.) I haven't thought it out much past that though, because I think it will most likely end up being an infinitely complex wave which kinda becomes pointless to talk about.
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Posted 2010-04-24, 11:19 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Actually, my theory has gotten even..."
You could try with another picture. I think I have an idea what you mean though... I'm guessing from what I remember in class (a good two montsh ago) that it would probably look like the one above, but with a bunch more little wiggles attached to the big wiggles, and they start close together, come apart, then back together, right?
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Posted 2010-04-25, 09:19 AM in reply to Skurai's post starting "You could try with another picture. I..."
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I'm guessing from what I remember in class (a good two montsh ago) that it would probably look like the one above, but with a bunch more little wiggles attached to the big wiggles, and they start close together, come apart, then back together, right?
Yep. I don't have a picture handy at the moment but it sounds like you know what I'm talking about.
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