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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:03 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I'm sorry, I must've skipped over the..."
D3V said:
The only person that has put it on par is you,
Actually, if you once again reread the OP, it was Jessifer who originally did it. That's what sparked this post. Since then, Jizmo has done so as well.

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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:06 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Actually, if you once again reread the..."
Jessifer said:
I believe there are rare cases where it's justified...id est mass murderers, child rapists and such.
Well their state of minds are usually somewhat similar, they're both fucked up and probably need to be locked away for life anyways.














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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:10 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Actually, if you once again reread the..."
Yes, but has no one noticed that I didn't just say rape in general? I said quite specifically child rapists. It's one thing to rape someone who's able to even have a chance to defend themselves, it's another to rape a small child who never had the possibility to.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:11 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "Yes, but has no one noticed that I..."
Jessifer said:
Yes, but has no one noticed that I didn't just say rape in general? I said quite specifically child rapists. It's one thing to rape someone who's able to even have a chance to defend themselves, it's another to rape a small child who never had the possibility to.
I wanted to discuss rape in general. Your comment just sparked it. And even in the case of child molestation, the same arguments apply.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:17 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I wanted to discuss rape in general...."
mjordan2nd said:
I wanted to discuss rape in general. Your comment just sparked it. And even in the case of child molestation, the same arguments apply.
Well, you need to be more specific about it next time, chief...

For argument purposes. Rape probably isn't the same as murder, UNLESS, the murder isn't physical. What if you murder somebody with poison, something non-physical..? That basically nullifies the whole case of physicality.














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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:26 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Well, you need to be more specific..."
D3V said:
Well, you need to be more specific about it next time, chief...
I don't really see any ambiguity in "why do people consider rape to be that bad." It really didn't matter whether I was referring to child rape, or rape in general, however I did mean rape in general. I thought that would be gathered by the fact that the topic was about rape. Was I expecting too much? I think not, because even you had gathered that much. I don't see why you're complaining about me being ambiguous now, when you already understood the context of my post in that respect.

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For argument purposes. Rape probably isn't the same as murder, UNLESS, the murder isn't physical. What if you murder somebody with poison, something non-physical..? That basically nullifies the whole case of physicality.
What?
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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:45 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Well, you need to be more specific..."
D3V said:
For argument purposes. Rape probably isn't the same as murder, UNLESS, the murder isn't physical. What if you murder somebody with poison, something non-physical..? That basically nullifies the whole case of physicality.
To the loved ones of the dead, murder is murder regardless of whether or not there's blood involved.

And now I'm off for another week. Adieu.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 03:20 PM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "To the loved ones of the dead, murder..."
The stoics would argue that anyone can be happy in any situation, we just choose to be unhappy. So the "scarred for life" argument doesn't really hold, in my opinion.

Rape is not on par with murder, in my opinion.
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Posted 2007-11-09, 04:50 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "The stoics would argue that anyone can..."
It really isn't on par with murder, however I do believe the reason the punishment is so high is serving as to deter people from doing that.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:19 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I wanted to discuss rape in general...."
I feel that rape, in today's society, isn't viewed as badly as it was in the past. I personally find it deplorable, for obvious reasons to those who know me, but it happens so often that it's really become to be viewed as more of a nuacance in the minds of people who wouldn't actually understand what exactly it's like to go through it.

Then there's people who fake stories just for attention, which only increases the desensitization towards the subject in general. I find more people who have the mindset of "Oh, you were raped? Sucks to be you." It doesn't really so much bother me as make wonder.

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