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Posted 2007-08-13, 10:13 PM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "Don't mock the impending outbreak."
I have chain mail, so I am protected.

I believe it was MJ, I'll search for it.
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Posted 2007-08-13, 10:15 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I have chain mail, so I am protected. ..."
HandOfHeaven said:
I believe it was MJ, I'll search for it.
Thanks.
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Posted 2007-08-13, 10:22 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Thanks."
I searched and only found these:

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=9%2F11

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=9%2F11

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=9%2F11


Sorry if those don't help at all. I'm sure it was mentioned in a thread that went off topic. Those were the only things that came up when I search 9/11, but anyone could do that. Good luck in finding it.
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Posted 2007-08-13, 10:52 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "I searched and only found these: ..."
I'm going to say what I said about the moon landing:

Skepticism is innocuous as long as it is recognized as skepticism. When it is preposterously exaggerated and asserted as fact without sufficient, or in some cases, any real evidence it ceases to be innocuous.

Your assertions aren't skepticism, the1, they're delusions.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 08:36 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I'm going to say what I said about the..."
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I'm going to say what I said about the moon landing:

Skepticism is innocuous as long as it is recognized as skepticism. When it is preposterously exaggerated and asserted as fact without sufficient, or in some cases, any real evidence it ceases to be innocuous.

Your assertions aren't skepticism, the1, they're delusions.
I remember a thread like this along time ago, It just doesnt all add up... Ladon Family flown out the next day.. I just think the whole thing is fishy and all.. Honestly you can't proove me wrong about the 8.4 second free fall. Ask any engineer or designer of big buildings.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 08:36 AM in reply to The1's post starting "I remember a thread like this along..."
You should take a picture of yourself with your tinfoil hat on.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 08:37 AM in reply to The1's post starting "I remember a thread like this along..."
Pretty sure a massive fireball can burn through to the ground just as fast.

And it's Bin Ladin, get it right.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 08:48 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Pretty sure a massive fireball can burn..."
HOH=Hameed Ohmar Hasheesh. His initials.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 10:35 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Pretty sure a massive fireball can burn..."
HandOfHeaven said:
Pretty sure a massive fireball can burn through to the ground just as fast.

And it's Bin Ladin, get it right.
Who cares what his name is.. All im saying is the whole 911 is complete bullshit. Also the people in america or any country have no authority. We are little peons.. No one really cares about us. All they care about is power/greed and were to stupid to realize were fighting wars for no reason.
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Posted 2007-08-14, 10:25 AM in reply to The1's post starting "I remember a thread like this along..."
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I remember a thread like this along time ago, It just doesnt all add up... Ladon Family flown out the next day.. I just think the whole thing is fishy and all.. Honestly you can't proove me wrong about the 8.4 second free fall. Ask any engineer or designer of big buildings.
The idea that you can put such a precise number for the fall time is ridiculous from the videos alone. The videos are never clear about how long the towers took to fall. Never that clear, anyway. And what is it we're measuring? The time it took the perimeter column to hit the ground? The debris cloud? There's way too much ambiguity in your claim to really be taken seriously.

That said, I have heard claims of the towers falling at anywhere from 8 seconds to 18 seconds. The 8 seconds is not really possible. Lets, once again, look at the math. Newtonian mechanics dictates a fall time of at least 9.2 seconds:

t=sqrt(2h/g)=sqrt(2[416]/9.81)=~9.2

Even if the government planned the fall, they can't change the laws of physics. An explosion is outwards. It would not cause the towers to have some initial velocity when they begin their fall. If anything the initial velocity would be upwards at an angle. This isn't even taking into account the resistance of the building (which would be relatively minimal) and air resistance.

If you want a more accurate time depiction for the fall, check out the seismic disturbances in NYC on 9/11.



Through careful interpretation of this data, it has been estimated that it took 11.3 +- 1.5 seconds for the towers to collapse. This is more believable as it doesn't defy physics.

And about your church claims, you can't prove that a guy didn't live for 600 years. Just as I can't prove that the towers didn't fall in 8.4 seconds. Except I can prove that they didn't fall in 8.4 seconds.

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