OMG WTF BBQ (a discussion of economics between various frontal lobes)

If this is true, then Marx would have a valid point. I have a hard time believing that, though. Looking at it from a biological standpoint, it appears that there are certain inherent instincts ("natures"), includins social instincts, in every animal, so I don't see why the same principle wouldn't apply to us. I don't know, I could be wrong, I just have a hard time believing that there aren't social instincts that humans live by. What do you think?

Well, personally, I'm not quite sure what I believe. I've been taking psychology courses at the same time as I've been studying Marxism, so it's pretty interesting. I don't really know if it's fair to say that our actions socially are natural. There may be natural urges behind them, however if placed into a different social structure would they not differ? Take for example the natural urge to reproduce, which can speak to alot of capitalist motivations (get rich, get famous, get recognition socially so you can ultimately reproduce... this is very Freudian and slightly shaky). I mean, men don't knock women over the head with a club and take them to their den anymore. See what I mean? As things change, our natural instincts could still be there but they would change.

Really the bottom line is.... how can human nature apply to something that is man made.