Iraq is going crazy

Of course Iraqi's don't follow the rules of war. I don't believe mass genocide of your own people is condoned...

Also killing your own people of your country isn't right.

Didn't I just say that?

Sorry Titus, but you're far too trusting/vein here. Your "watch more speeches" comment really irked me. Do you think these "elected leaders" will help at all? Look at Karzai. The constitution is being drafted by other countries, pretty much. Not exactly in the name of the people. You're telling me to read up on facts, I'm telling you to get a nice whiff of reality. Iraq cannot and will not run on some fake democracy that is going to be set up there. It'll still be a shithole. A shithole with less people thrown into blenders, maybe, but still a violent shithole with suicide bombings.

Well, irregardless, only time will tell, and that is the only stone cold fact either side can present. History doesn't always repeat itself, so taking examples from the past holds absolutely no basis. I, for one, would rather support my President and his decisions while there is nothing we can do about it, than bitch about something we cannot change until the next election. Honestly though, would have rather had Gore in Bush's place? We would be far worse off, but then again, that too is speculation, as is everything you said thus far.

As is everything you've said thus far.

And we aren't. We are granting (for lack of better words) them sovereignty, but easing them into the whole scenario over the course of 2 or so years. First, by June 30th, they're Army will have been properly trained to handle riots, etc. as the Coalition is currently doing. At that time, other U.N. countries will be sending in forces to ensure peace is being maintained. At the turn of the new year, elections will incur for the Iraqi people to campaign and elect their own officials. Approxiamtely 9 months after Iraqi elected officials take office, that same elected board will draft their very own constitution. All in all, this process will be aided by the U.S.A. as well as over 7 other U.N. nations. We aren't just leaving as you suppose, we have a very well constructed timeline format for their people to organize themselves, and turn into a country ran by themselves.

Actually, I got this straight from the President of the United States, as a plan for Iraq in the future. When things are actually going to happen, whether or not the time table is 100% perfect, but close enough, it is no longer speculation.