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Posted 2007-11-08, 12:55 PM
Jessifer said:
Morally, no, I don't believe there are cases where it's moral. Justified, however, that all depends on personal beliefs. I believe there are rare cases where it's justified...id est mass murderers, child rapists and such.

However, that still doesn't mean it's moral, even to a person who may find it justified.

Personally, I don't believe that Morality and Justification should be paired with each other to begin with.
This is continued from the death penalty thread.

What I can't understand is why do people consider rape to be that bad? I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly just don't see it. I definitely agree it's wrong and it should be punished. But I think it's of the magnitude of assault, or maybe assault with bodily injury, but not murder.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:14 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Rape"
I can seemingly understand where your coming from, being a black man.














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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:24 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "I can seemingly understand where your..."
D3V said:
I can seemingly understand where your coming from, being a black man.
That was very...dev from the past there.
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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:26 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "That was very...dev from the past there."
Oh, cry about it.

Seriously, how is rape bad? Are you really that stupid? I know that it's okay for animals, but I hope we've evolved further from that where we can have our own liberities and decide what we want to do or not.














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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:35 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Oh, cry about it. Seriously, how is..."
D3V said:
Oh, cry about it.

Seriously, how is rape bad? Are you really that stupid? I know that it's okay for animals, but I hope we've evolved further from that where we can have our own liberities and decide what we want to do or not.
I think you entirely skipped my original post. My argument isn't whether or not rape is bad, it's whether or not it's on par with murder. Reread, and come again.

Really, in my opinion its the rest of society that is stupid. Provide me with some biological evidence that it is on par with murder.

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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:41 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I think you entirely skipped my..."
mjordan2nd said:
I think you entirely skipped my original post.

Really, in my opinion its the rest of society that is stupid. Provide me with some biological evidence that it is on par with murder.
Because most rape victims will never be the same, their entire life. They have to live with what happened because of some scumbag whatever the case may be has violated them, and it will always haunt them. So as I see it, being scarred for your entire life is just as bad as being killed.














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Posted 2007-11-08, 02:00 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I think you entirely skipped my..."
mjordan2nd said:
I think you entirely skipped my original post. My argument isn't whether or not rape is bad, it's whether or not it's on par with murder. Reread, and come again.

Really, in my opinion its the rest of society that is stupid. Provide me with some biological evidence that it is on par with murder.
I'm sorry, I must've skipped over the part where you compared it with the assault aspect, in that case, no it's not the same. The only person that has put it on par is you, the punishments are even different, there are tons of different circumstances when it comes to rape and the punishment following, but with murder there's only 4 degrees I believe... so yeah. Rape is on par with murder.

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+ The punishments are different..
+ Scarring somebody for life is just as bad as killing them














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Posted 2007-11-08, 01:51 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Rape"
Most young females that are raped turn into pornstars so I guess.... some people benefit from it?

In all seriousness, I'd put rape right up there with murder.
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