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Samus vs. ANYBODY
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Posted 2005-02-08, 06:10 AM
I'll argue Samus against any character you guys can name, with the exception of immortal characters like Raziel. Bring your best arguments, and the Metroid Hunter will crush you!
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Posted 2005-02-08, 08:20 AM in reply to Raziel's post "Samus vs. ANYBODY"
Don't be so arrogant! I am 110% possitive Samus could kill you.

Anyway, I realize I am fighting a losing battle. By doing this, I am sure my character will be annihilated. Still, my Kain obsession demands it!


Jump:
Kain probably cannot jump half as high as Samus. Still, his long-distance jumping ability would be very useful when she is attacking with her beams that freeze and those damn missiles.

Speed:
With those damn boots, even Samus is probably faster than Kain. Still, Kain's speed is not to be taken lightly. Though, his dodging in Mist form from Defiance probably wouldn't work that well, since his enemy is armed with guns as opposed to blades and magic.

Intelligence:
Well, how you battle with Kain is your own decision. Kain, for me, always attacked. I defended when necessary but I mainly just kept on the offensive. Somehow, I don't think that would work all that well here...

From what I can see, Kain cannot win with a decisive blow from the Soul Reaver. He will have to rely on his awesome TK and Magic.

ABILITIES:
Inspire Hate- Causes Kain's human enemies to slaughter each other.
Spirit Death- Rips the soul from his opponent's body. (All manner of being except bosses)
Repel- Reflects Magical attacks. (Not much use)
Spirit Wrack- Rips the soul from the body and allows Kain to manipulate vacant flesh.
Control Mind- Allows Kain to control his opponent. After the spell is done, the person dies.
Kinetic Shackles- Allows Kain to chain his enemy with pure force alone.
TK- Kain can lift and throw the body of his opponent anywhere he wants.
Font of Putresence- Uses toxins to melt the body of his enemy
Flay- Strips the flesh from his enemy.
Slow Time- Very useful. He can slow time for his opponents, but move in full speed.
BERSERK/FURY/IMMOLATE- Powerful attacks used after Kain has defended for a long while.
Teleportation- Not all that clear. Can't tell if there is a limit or not on the distance he can travel with it.
Soul Reaver Energy Attack- A concentrated attack that takes time. In conjunction with Slow Time, it might be very useful.

FORMS

Bat- Allows Kain to turn into a flock of bats and span great distances.
Wolf- Allows Kain to transform into a wolf and leap and jump faster than he previously could.
Mist- Allows Kain to turn into Mist, slipping through barriers and past the enemy.

That's about it. You may destroy my illusions of Kain being victorious now.

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Posted 2005-02-08, 12:58 PM in reply to Raziel's post "Samus vs. ANYBODY"
Any "character?" Video game character? Comic book char? Novel char? You need to specify before Samus gets several new assholes.
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Posted 2005-02-08, 03:31 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Any "character?" Video game character?..."
Weapons & Armor
Iron Sword- A typical blade, not extremely powerful.
The Axes- Allows Kain to use a deadly melee attack.
Mace- A Mace that is somewhat powerful and that can be used to destroy barriers and so-on.
Soul Reaver- The most powerful weapon Kain wields. Capable of destroying an enemy in one powerful stroke.
Blood Reaver- Not as powerful. Kain can destroy objects with this blade and it can be used in deadly combinations, but it lacks in strength compared to the Soul Reaver.
Flame Sword- A blade of fire that incinerates Kain's opponents. In Blood Omen, it was even more useful because it can strike opponents faster and Kain can use magic.
Bone Armor- No good.
Iron Armor- Armor forged by hellfire and the Necromancer Mortanius' magics. It is not all that useful.
Flesh Armor- Allows Kain to concentrate on his opponent, killing them while the armor draws out the blood for him.
Chaos Armor- Kains' enemies are quite vicious and the Chaoss Armor extracts a heavy price for their bloodlust. They may be striking him, but it is their body that carries the wounds.
Wraith Armor- Found in "Hell" this armor was forged by the Spirit Forges and gives Kain great defense when it is night. At day, it is useless.

Kain's power is at its peak when it is night. When daylight chases darkness, the vampire's power wanes. Still, Kain is no weakling. Of course, I have already stated that the blade Kain wields and his own physical strength won't help much here. His powerful TK and Magic is his only chance.

Samus could launch herself into the air and hit him constantly with those beams of hers and so-on. Kain could probably avoid most of them with Jump. However, Slow Time seems more useful. Slow time and those missiles are stuck. Then, move out of the way and behind Samus. Also, what if his TK could be used to set off the time-frozen missiles? He could detonate them right in Samus' face. Or, he could move the missiles right back at her.

If that's no good, he could simply grab her body with TK, time is still slowed, and fling her to the ground. Then, the Soul Reaver/Reaver could end this once and for all.

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Posted 2005-02-08, 10:43 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Any "character?" Video game character?..."
Any character, Bob.

I'll destroy Kain later tonight.
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Posted 2005-02-08, 11:18 PM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Any character, Bob. I'll destroy..."
A pox on you and your damn future technology! I don't think any wizard or knight no matter how powerful could take on a Terminator. It's just not possible.

I tell you! Slow Time and TK cannot be beaten. How can Samus, with all her speed and aerodynamics, counteract time itself? Once she is slowed basically to a crawl, Kain can use TK and bring her right to him. One slash from the Soul Reaver and it is over.

To get technical, Slow Time reduces an opponent's speed by 1/4 from what I've read. Still, that's enough for Kain. Also, why wouldn't a basic attack like Spirit Death or Spirit Wrack work? Hell, even the Soul Reaver's Energy Attack would be enough to finish her. Also, he could teleport right to her slowed self and blast her with Berserk or Immolate.

I know there is a way for her to win, but I know too little. You can post, and I'll attempt to counter your plan for her victory, but until then, I am filled with that dreaded illusion. Hope.
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Posted 2005-02-09, 01:07 AM in reply to Kuja`s #1's post starting "A pox on you and your damn future..."
One word. Ice Beam. Water based, freezing attack. All she needs is to charge it once, Kain becomes locked in a cocoon of ice and he dies before he manages to thaw. Hell, she could even go the extra mile and use the Ice Spreader to make sure she got him on the first try.

The end.

To be more specific, Spirit Wrack and Spirit Death wouldn't work because they have to cut through her suit's shield in order to work, and neither spell would affect her shields because it's not a living organism.

Immolate could work, but it would only deplete her shields, and once her main energy had been sapped, her backup reserves would kick in and Kain's meter would already be completely drained. He would be totally open to attack and she would demolish him.

Slow time can be counteracted with her Speed Boost. She runs about 3 to 4 times faster than normal, and becomes nearly invulnerable in the process. It could also maybe be argued that Samus's Gravity Suit would counteract the effect of the spell, but that's a stretch.

It would take a bit more than one attack from the Soul Reaver to beat Samus. Again, it would have to cut through her shields, and she's got that backup power that kicks in immediately after the attack.

Plus, she's completely invulnerable for a few seconds after each attack she absorbs, and cannot be harmed in any way once she activates the Screw Attack.

On top of that, Kain has no way to heal himself in this battle. None of Kain's attacks are capable of cutting through her shields, to her body, and therefore he cannot spill her blood. Samus, on the other hand, just needs to blow random shit up and scoop up energy packets to recharge her shields.

If she really wanted to lay the smack down on him, she could use her Light Beam and Sunburst attack to deal him some serious damage. He's technically a dark-aligned creature, and sunlight obviously does him harm. Ice spreader followed by a Sunburst and he's done for.

Again, the end.

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Posted 2005-02-09, 06:04 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "One word. Ice Beam. Water based,..."
George Bush could talk her to death with his "War on Terrorism" speach.
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