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Posted 2004-08-23, 07:46 PM
I know this happened awhile back, but I just started reading up on Curt Cobian and Nirvana because Nirvana are my new favourite band.

Anyways, I was wondering what everyone thought of his death? Did he commit suiside or was he murdered? I still dont know what to think yet.

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Posted 2004-08-23, 07:51 PM in reply to Arbitus's post "Kurt Cobain"
he committed suicide. and it doesn't matter because nirvana fucking sucks.
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Posted 2004-08-23, 07:52 PM in reply to Arbitus's post "Kurt Cobain"
Suicide, I'd like to believe it was that strung out heroin addict wife of his, but I doubt it. Same thing goes for the Nanny theory. Symnzkkk, blow yourself, Nirvana was damn good.
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Posted 2004-08-23, 08:17 PM in reply to Slim's post starting "Suicide, I'd like to believe it was..."
They were awesome! He did commite suicide tho.
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Posted 2004-08-23, 08:38 PM in reply to tokill.ace's post starting "They were awesome! He did commite..."
Nirvana was alright... their guitar actually sucked... except for the fact that they had damn catchy riffs.
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Posted 2004-08-23, 09:15 PM in reply to Penny_Bags's post starting "Nirvana was alright... their guitar..."
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Posted 2004-08-23, 09:21 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
i am preaty sure he kill himself runing away from his wife god look at here she is mentaly crazy.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 04:41 AM in reply to Arbitus's post "Kurt Cobain"
Nice spelling of his name there.


But Nirvana was pretty good. Even after Kurt blew himself to shit, the drummer produced the band foo fighters.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 05:36 AM in reply to -=Rico-GP=-'s post starting "Nice spelling of his name there. ..."
Nirvana sucked. Whiny, sloppy art-house alternative rock.

Not to mention the fact that Kurt Cobain was a fucking pussy and a shitty human being. Suicide is the bar-none most selfish and unforgiveably disgusting act a human being can commit. Ending your own life like that isn't taking into account the thoughts, feelings or opinions of the people that care about you. He didn't even have a plausible reason for committing suicide. He wasn't dying of a terminal disease and he wasn't trapped under a boulder on Mount Everest. He killed himself because he was too weak to handle fame. Are you fucking kidding me? He caused irreparable damage to his wife, child, family and fans all because he couldn't handle being MTV's "cool-kid-of-the-hour"? You know what Kurt? Had you just toughed it out for a few more months the whole surge of popularity surrounding your over-appreciated ass would have died down and you could have gone on making music and staying out of the spotlight. But, you were too much of a fucking pansy to handle even something that simple.

It makes me want to fucking vomit when I hear people mouring the death of that sack of shit. If he'd been worth a single iota of anyone's attention, he wouldn't have taken the chicken-shit road away from his problems.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 10:01 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Nirvana sucked. Whiny, sloppy..."
I love how people in their own heavy metal/punk rock types of bands classify Nirvana as "sloppy, art-house alternative rock". There was no one like Nirvana back in the day, it just happens that everyone started emulating what they did, since they were a hit.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 11:50 AM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "I love how people in their own heavy..."
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Posted 2004-08-24, 02:36 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
slim, stop flaming. i'm allowed to have an opinion.

i personally can't fucking stand nirvana. the only song by them that i can listen to for a few seconds before turning it off is 'territorial pissings'. and then his faggot voice, screaming like a stupid jackass, just gets on my nerves.

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lithium is okay, too, i guess.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 03:48 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
I really do agree, Nirvana isn't cool, bar the song "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "Lithium". I agree with Raziel totally that Kurt was a complete tool, if he did indeed commit suicide. But how exactly doesn't someone shoot themselves the way he allegedly did with a shotgun?

Shinto, you are a bit critical. Not everyone can pioneer a new form of music, and they just happened to be ACDC inspired. And that is the truth. Nirvana and ACDC's music is based around alot of the same scales and mostly their songs are all power chord riffs. Riffs that don't require skill at all. NO skill. The solos, too, don't require all that much skill. ACDC did have better guitar, but they weren't all that good either.

What do you mean by "he played an out of tune guitar"? I didn't quite follow it. How was it tuned? If a guitar is tuned into drop C or something like that (however, I know that they didn't use drop c), then it's not considered to be "out of tune". Unless he just kinda let it slip out of tune and never retuned it, then I think you mis-spoke. I was under the impression that most of the "different sound" that they had was created by new fangled effects.



P.S. Shinto, saying that a riff is catchy, doesn't mean that it is a well constructed riff. And they DID have a catchy riff or two. I rate Nirvana a 5/10 as a band. Where as I would rate bands like Led, Sabbath, or the JHE a 10/10.

NIRVANA DID NOTHING FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BUT SPAWN LITTLE SHIT HEAD GRUNGE FREAKS AND NU METAL FANATICS. Gg no re.

By the way, Nirvana had SHITTY vocals. Kurt was ghey. All Nirvana was, was a small talent garage band out of Seattle that HAPPENED to make it big.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 10:53 PM in reply to Titusfied's post starting "I love how people in their own heavy..."
Titusfied said:
I love how people in their own heavy metal/punk rock types of bands classify Nirvana as "sloppy, art-house alternative rock".
And I love how everybody in their little MTV-huddle of musical tastes labels death metal as being nothing but screaming and violence. Everybody is capable of generalizing a band like that. It just so happens that in this situation, I'm right.


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There was no one like Nirvana back in the day.
There's a pretty damned good reason for that. Because they sucked. People only started emulating that band because they got famous, and they only became famous because Kurt was capable of writing a few catchy riffs and didn't sound like any of the hair-metal bands that were dominating the airwaves at the time. They got big because they were a breath of new air, not necessarily because they were any good.

The fact is, they were a sloppy, sloppy band. Kurt Cobain was a terrible vocalist, a mediocre guitarist and a mediocre songwriter. I'm not one of those people who thinks technical skill is the apotheosis of talent. It takes a hell of a lot more than just skill to make good music. It takes a certain amount of passion, drive and inspiration to make music. However, it is clearly evident that Kurt Cobain had none of those things. Had he had any of those qualitities, he would have been willing to suffer for his art instead of taking the ultimate-chicken-shit route out of his misery. I think the absolute most despicable thing about Kurt Cobain was the fact that he took his own life in light of the fact that he was raising an infant daughter. I don't care how fucked up you are on drugs, that's not acceptable. My father was an acitve crack addict for nearly two years and he's still alive and working to right his wrongs. Kurt Cobain left a legacy of cowardice, selfishness and pure unadulterated loathsomeness behind and all because he couldn't handle the fame. Pathetic.
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Posted 2004-08-25, 11:19 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "And I love how everybody in their..."
Heh, that is one way to think about it I guess, saying he couldn't handle the fame. I doubt that is the truth though. I highly doubt he was like, "Holy shit, I'm too famous, how about I just get really fucked up on drugs, then kill myself. That way, I don't have to deal with it!" Not likely.

They might not have been the greatest band ever, and I don't know if you are somehow involved in the decisions it takes to sign a band to a record label, but I'm sure they had just a little more than a few catchy riffs if they made it that big. There are plenty of different music styles out there, so I doubt they were just looking for the next new thing by chance. Truth is, although you might not have liked his music, vocals, etc. a very very large mass of people did. And clearly enough to make them a highly popular group that made successful album after successful album.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those all impressed individuals that cried when Kurt killed himself, but I do like a lot of their songs. You don't have to be a guitar expert or a song writer to see talent, but it can help.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 08:13 AM in reply to Arbitus's post "Kurt Cobain"
He was peekay'd by a shotgun.

Good riddance. I hate nirvana.
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Posted 2004-08-24, 04:07 PM in reply to Arbitus's post "Kurt Cobain"
CHange your avatar -_-
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