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View Poll Results: Do you believe in fate?
Definitely so. 6 27.27%
Hell no! 4 18.18%
Partly. 12 54.55%
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Posted 2004-07-01, 12:21 PM
To quote a monologue from Max Payne 2:

"Vlad was right. There are no choices. Nothing but a straight line. If you had done something differently, it wouldn't be you, it would be someone else looking back, asking a different set of questions. The illusion comes afterwards, when you ask 'why me?' and 'what if?' when you look back, see the branches, like a pruned Bonsai tree, or a forked lightning."

I could easily list a number of incidents when "freak accidents", or maybe just minute conincidences resulting in meeting some person, have changed my life greatly. Personally, afterwards, I don't see how those things *couldn't* have happened. It just... No. I believe in fate to some extent. While I can still make choices, I think life gears itself in certain directions, and you're bound to get what you deserve, eventually.

What do YOU think?
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Posted 2004-07-01, 12:32 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Fate"
Tough question for some. But, I really don't believe in fate. I just live my life by the choices that I make and that is what impacts my life.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 12:58 PM in reply to MightyJoe's post starting "Tough question for some. But, I really..."
I think life goes in a general direction. I think you have choice on some things but then fate on other things. The best example of fate with me always seems to be dealing with girls.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 12:59 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Fate"
U really like Max Payne 2 dont u Chruser

I dont know. Things happen no matter how u see it or what u do, I really dont have a good oppinion about wether its fate or just coincidence because I simply dont know.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 01:27 PM in reply to undeadzombieguy's post starting "U really like Max Payne 2 dont u..."
There was a thread about this before. *digs*

Okay it's not a thread, but it was a subtopic in the Do You Believe thread.

Postdestination.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 01:33 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "There was a thread about this before. ..."
Party i guess, but you can change your fate anytime.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 01:48 PM in reply to Ganga's post starting "Party i guess, but you can change your..."
To elaborate:

What happens to you is your choice. You make the decisions. What makes it fate in the end is when you look back on it and see the other paths. Those turning points where you made decisions are what affected your "fate."

The reality of the matter is that they never were really choices to begin with. Yes, you, of your own free will, decided what was to happen. One option was taken over another. However, if you were in the same situation again, you would choose the same option (note my phrasing--do not argue with me about this as it is a fact).

That means that, if you were to look at it from a looking back perspective, then you life would be predetermined from the beginning of time. Here, in the now of time, you have all the options you could possibly imagine. They're just not choices as we all understand the word.

You can go to work or quit your job. It's up to you to decide, but whatever thought you have about the situation is there for a reason, and that reason exists for another reason. It's all a big, inescapable chain.

That is, if you look at it from the end. Currently, I choose my fate. There is nothing that determines where my life will go but me. It'll be different in 70 years.
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Posted 2004-07-01, 02:15 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "To elaborate: What happens to you is..."
I think that everyone gets what they deserve in some way, good or bad, I agree with Chruser.

I need to get Max Payne 2... quickly.
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