I'm not going to be force-fed marketing bullshit on Sony's spoon just because you told me to. I know your penis shrunk a little bit when you saw this thread, but I am not a console fanboy that needs to suck on some Japanese company's teat. A bad deal is a bad deal, period. You just told me "oh, it's a great deal... if you go out and buy more stuff that will probably outprice the full package system!"