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Posted 2003-12-24, 08:20 AM in reply to Raziel's post "Quarter-Finals! Magus vs. Raziel"
Raziel said:
Kuja said:
He wasnt making his barrier with those. He was summoning Lavos. When you arrive this is what he was doing. He doesnt need to summon Lavos in this battle.
Speculation. He might not have been using those items at all to summon Lavos, and had used them solely to conjure his barrier. Plus, it makes a lot more sense that he would be using a circle of power to summon a giant barrier than to create a time rift.
When you arive you do hear him do the summon. If he wasnt summoning Lavos it wouldnt come. So he has his barrier. This is the whole point of zelaron melee dont try breaking it down for your battle.

Raziel said:
Kuja said:
Luminaire Destructive dome of pure light.
Yes, pure light. It didn't say "a destructive dome of crackling electricity." It said pure light. If a destructive dome of pure light can be considered Lightning based, so can the Light Reaver, since it's a destructive weapon of pure light.
Yes, remove the keywords that explain it all. Spekkio himself say Crono cannot use anything else then Lightning magic and the manual says it does lightning. Ultima can be considered has pure light yet it does not do LIGHT damage either hell, ultima is non-elemental. Your currently fighting evidence by removing word to remold a definition of a spell that is clearly explained.

Raziel said:
Just because I say "non-elemental damage" doesn't mean it's magic. A lightsaber does non-elemental physical damage. The Reaver is the same.
There is a diff. with non-elemental and physical. A lightsaber does physical. Non-elemental is actualy pure magical damage which is why it prove that it is magical.

Raziel said:
Kuja said:
Well considering that Superman power can be supressed without even being touched. It would be Magic. As for Wolverine Healing Factor it would be technological enchancement from gene. The Reaver is not technological or genetic. It is magical as i said above.
Superman's powers come directly from his genes, smart guy. He naturally absorbs the light of our yellow sun and that is what makes him Superman. Wolverine's powers are not technological at all. He just simply evolved and adapted. The same applies to Raziel. The Reaver is his own soul, not a magical blade of energy.
Oh, really? Then why can Superman power can be disabled when close the that whatever kryptonite ? Without even touching it. He doesnt even need to see it. It just need to be in range. As for Wolverine when the metal was merged to his skeleton by technonology it created a mutation that was create by ? *hint* Techonology *hint* Which created like i said enchancment of ? *hint* his gene *hint*.
now to get to the Reaver (Not the physical one.) Everyone know that spiritual energy is ? *hint* magical *hint*.

Kuja said:
Where is the lightning?
Raziel said:
The Light Reaver - Elemental Light
Now your changing the rules of zelaron melee to fit your own desire to win the battle. Light damage isnt lightning. Raziel has no lightning damage possibility.

Raziel said:
Kuja said:
Her will isnt in the machine else spekkio of could given magic and if he had like i said spekkio could give magic and it would be FIRE damage. It is proven there is no will for that damned toy in the game itself. Also, like i said other machine can do these shadow laser attacks and they have no more will then Robo has just like stated in the game. The barrier absorb Magic and elements and make him quite strong almost invul against physical damage.
If he has the ability to feel compassion for another person and to feel true emotion, then he has a will, just not the same kind as a human. By re-programming Robo, Lucca basically gave him the parameters and guidelines for how he will act. That is bestowing willpower onto a creature. She determined exactly how he would behave, therefore she duplicated her own will and imposed it upon Robo. His attacks are magical.
It is clearly said in the game by Lucca that ROBOTS HAVE NO WILL THEY DO WHAT THEY ARE PROGRAMED FOR! God, damnit even spekkio say it how hard is it to understand that he has no will. It isnt because he is programmed to be good that he has a will. You can see many web page that can guess word you think about by asking various question and adapt by itself to what ppl think with result of those test he make ppl pass. Those web page have a will ? No. They can adapt just like Lucca programmed Robo to. Clear, simple and easy to understand. Your fighting proof with something based on nothing of the game where it hold absolutly no ground on anything it cant even be an assumption based on something it is just an imaginary thing that you invented.

Raziel said:
Kuja said:
Robo tackle doesnt ignore his barrier and it is just as physical and similar to a boulder attack... It is against physical not weapons
That's because his entire body is a weapon. Raziel isn't picking up chunks of rock and throwing them at Magus, he's slamming Magus into the surrounding terrain. Magus' barrier won't defend against that, just like it wouldn't defend against being thrown into a pool of lava.
Slamming himself on Magus or Magus slammed on a rock. it doesnt change that it is physical and it will still be even less then the puny damage that robo does with physical attack. It would be close to nothing if it damaged at all.

Magus : "you met an hideous fate. Just like that poor fool, Crono!"
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