~Krayzie-Bone~ said:
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I think there should be some guidlines as to which games can be used to as refference. Like say for instance, cloud can only use skills and such from FF7. Understand what i mean?? That way it would cut down on all this controversy as to which skills are treated as what and what skills can block what and so forth. Just my input. I think cloud will descimate MegaMan for the simple fact cloud isnt human at all, his blood was fused with mako which inhances all of his natural abilities alot, hence his great power with a sword. Also, if cloud can defeat the ultima weapon and ruby weapon and emreald weapon he can most certanly defeat a little steal smuff dont you think?
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we have already discussed most of those issues prior.. like defeating the "weapons"
cloud may be endowed with more power from the mako.. but the "vessel" is still a human body.. and furthermore cloud is still only strong in comparison to the humans of the game
Senesia said:
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It doesn't matter what it is treated as in a game. A throw move in an arcade or fighting game simply means that it's unblockable, or you have to get really close to the opponent in order to execute it. It still slashes multiple times, each time doing different damage. (In Ehrgeiz, it can be break out of too, from what I've read.)
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i think you are referring to when you press block at the same time the opponent tries to throw you.. right when you are about to get thrown you flash white for like a half second or so.. this time allows you to counter the throw and escape.. i dont think you can break in the middle of a throw
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When you are grabbed, you will either be thrown or hit. When you are about to be
thrown you, you will flash white. At this time when you are flashing white,
press the Guard button to break the fall. The hard thing is that by the time you
see yourself flash white, you have no time to react. So, you got to use your
eyes and look and estimate when to press the Guard button. It is impossible to
do so if you do not understand the throw well. When you are hit, try and press
the Guard button just before the next hit hits you.
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but you are right the throw omnislash still hits multiple slashes each doing damage and if you are very fast and lucky you can actually kind of run away from it (parts of it since some of it is connected as combos)
there really isnt much thats usable from ehrzeig as far as attacks go.. since due to its fighting engine nature it consists mostly of powerful combo attacks
maybe only skull break and deathblow as individual attacks.. perhaps followed by tackle or soldier takedown (takedown does some damage and you will see why it might help below)
anyways i found something else too.. the tackle move which allows you to tackle units even while invincible
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Tackles work well against opponents who ground recover. Even if you
connect with their body while they're invincible, you'll still take
your opponents down.
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so Cloud could tackle X to the ground while X is invincible.. though im not sure how this will help Cloud all that much except give X less time to pummel Cloud while invincible
in any case my only main arguments for now are projectile evasion/fading out that can be used consecutively and clouds sword which additionally has far reach
ill still try to disprove the use of invincibility somehow.. im tempted to try to go on the basis that combos becomes like a single stream of connected attacks