could you give me a link to where I can download one. and a site that teaches you how to make ganmes with C++. One more thing. In VC++ theres alot of different kinds of things to do. Well theres a consol option in VC++ Heres a list of the types of "Projects" you can do:

1.Active server page
2.Binary File
3.Bitmap File
4.C/C++ Header File
5.C++ Source file
6.Cursor File
7.HTML Page
8.Icon File
9.Macro File
10.Resource Script
11.Resource Tamplate
12.Text File
13.ATL COM Appwizard
14.DevStudio Add-In Wizard
15.ISAPI Extension Wizard
16.Makefile
17.MFC ActiveX ControlWizard
18.MFC App Wizard (dll)
19.MFC App Wizard (exe)
20.Utility Project
21.Win32 Application
22.Win32 Consol Application
23.Win32 Dynamic-Link Library
24.Win32 Static Library

There, lol

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?