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D3V 2011-02-14 02:31 PM

Revolution in Iran
 
Protesting begins in Iran

Much like in Egypt, the citizens are tired of the dictatorships that control the population of their people.

Power to the people!

Anti-government demonstrations swell in Iran; clashes reported

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=T1
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/WOR...est.gi.afp.jpg

tl;dr

Protesters diverted to side-streets were beaten and gased, wtinesses said
At least 15 people were detained
U.S. Secretary of State Clinton called for an opening up of the political system in Iran
Unverified YouTube videos show demonstrators burning posters of Khamenei

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News travels too fast. This is the perfect example of how the vast expansion and speed of traveling information benefits mankind. Just imagine if all dictatorships could end due to simple things like youtube, twitter, facebook. Everyone has a voice, and everyone can now be heard.

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It has begun. You can do it Iranian people.

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!King_Amazon! 2011-02-14 03:12 PM

If nothing else, this is a great example of how perception is everything. The only reason our government is as it is is because most people feel apathetic or feel like they are unable to do anything to change it. The same is true of Iran, except now they are seeing countries in similar situations where people are uprising against the corrupt dictatorships. Nothing in Iran has changed other than the peoples perceptions of their power.

Also, there's no doubt in my mind that the internet will continue to be a tool of revolution. Wikileaks/4chan/etc have shown the power of the internet pretty well IMO. But be prepared to start seeing backlash from the people in power attempting to stop it. The powers of the world are not blind, I'm certain they know about this already, and I'm also certain that they are terrified by it.

D3V 2011-02-14 03:17 PM

They are absolutely terrified of it. Egypt tried to bring everything down, and there were instantly tons of way around it. Even companies like Google assisted in helping with phonebanks, and they set up number to call and record a message that would be put out as a Tweet on the RevolutionEgypt page. I love it, but you're right perception is everything. But really, does Iran have a good of a chance? They've had plenty of protests before, and the military alway wins. They're going to need an all out effort to get something accomplished this time around.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-14 04:47 PM

http://i53.tinypic.com/b3olco.gif

S2 AM 2011-02-14 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693255)
Also, there's no doubt in my mind that the internet will continue to be a tool of revolution.

And porn. Let's not forget the porn.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-14 06:07 PM

That goes without saying.

Skurai 2011-02-14 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693255)
If nothing else, this is a great example of how perception is everything. The only reason our government is as it is is because most people feel apathetic or feel like they are unable to do anything to change it. The same is true of Iran, except now they are seeing countries in similar situations where people are uprising against the corrupt dictatorships. Nothing in Iran has changed other than the peoples perceptions of their power.

Amen.
I'm glad these people see that they can at least try and do something.
We could learn a thing or two from them.

Skurai 2011-02-14 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 693256)
They've had plenty of protests before, and the military alway wins. They're going to need an all out effort to get something accomplished this time around.

That's why I say we fight Iran's government. No matter how bad war sounds, we can still help the innocent who can't defend themselves.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-14 08:47 PM

We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years. We have pretty much got them surrounded. I doubt it will happen, but we are definitely ready to do it if necessary.

Taking on Iran will be nothing like Iraq, though. War with Iran is serious fucking war.

Skurai 2011-02-14 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 693263)
We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years. We have pretty much got them surrounded. I doubt it will happen, but we are definitely ready to do it if necessary.

Taking on Iran will be nothing like Iraq, though. War with Iran is serious fucking war.

I guess I'll sign up for the military, then. If I can help the innocent, protect The American soldiers, and get a "free" job, then good. It's also a nice chance to try channeling spirits, since I personally can't stand violence.

D3V 2011-02-15 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA
We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years.

I don't think we'll have to. I'm hoping a revolution can take charge. Look at what's happened lately. Supression.

Iranian lawmakers condemn protests; call for execution of leaders

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=T2

tl;dr
Lawmakers call for the execution of opposition leaders Mehdi Karrubi and Mir Hossein Moussavi
A European Union official urged Iran to "fully respect" the rights of its citizens
Protesters were largely cleared from the streets by Monday night

Quote:

The calls for the leaders' executions come after a particularly deadly month in Iran. At least 66 people were executed in January, according to Iranian media reports. Most of the executions were reportedly carried out for drug offenses, although at least three involved political prisoners, a U.N. statement said.
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!King_Amazon! 2011-02-15 08:35 AM

Quote:

Most of the executions were reportedly carried out for drug offenses
Drug Jihad?

D3V 2011-02-15 09:48 AM

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The level of opression in Iran is far greater than that of in Egypt. The backlash could result in more casulties.

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I think the outspoken level isn't as high because of this face. I think they're still scared to speak out, they've got to be.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-15 10:05 AM

Rightfully so. Egypts military pledged to not attack protesters. They will get no such guarantee in Iran, I'm sure. Their government has no problem gassing/slaughtering them if necessary.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-15 10:56 AM

Apparently they think this is all a plot by the US

Quote:

Iranian authorities have repeatedly accused opposition leaders of being part of a Western plot to overthrow the Islamic system.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41595002...deastn_africa/

D3V 2011-02-15 11:45 AM

You know, I was going to post something about that but wasn't sure what it was all about. I seen an interview on RussiaToday on YouTube, well here let me find it:

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Damn bitches, keep our name out yo mouth. This isn't George Bush era were talking about. We have a competent president who is mindful of his surroundings.

I mean there's a video of their lawmakers calling for death to the ones leading the protests, and they're fucking chanting it. Are you kidding me? How does that make us responsible. I'd be pissed off and revolt too if our politicians did some crazy batshit insane stunt like that.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-15 12:45 PM

Well their society is based on batshit insane. And so is ours to an extent. Different flavors of crazy.

Skurai 2011-02-15 08:35 PM

To overthrow the Islamic...wat
The more I hear about Muslims, the less I like them. They're all... strict and stuff.

D3V 2011-02-16 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurai (Post 693280)
To overthrow the Islamic...wat
The more I hear about Muslims, the less I like them. They're all... strict and stuff.

What are you even talking about? You're belligerent.

In other news, Protests seem to be continuing in the region as North Africa seems to have some of their own.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=T1

TL;dr
Source: Several people arrested after police confronted protesters in Benghazi, Libya
In Yemen, calls for better curriculum turns into an anti-government protest
In Bahrain, protesters camp out at a landmark
In Iran, thousands turn out for a funeral of man claimed by both sides

http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2011/...nn.640x360.jpg



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12477275
Libya protests: Second city Benghazi hit by violence
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...11288687-1.jpg
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...ghazi_2011.gif

I'm so glad to hear this continuing.

!King_Amazon! 2011-02-16 11:42 AM

Have you heard about the protests going on in Wisconsin? They aren't quite in the same league as this stuff, but they've got the national guard on alert.


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