Zelaron Gaming Forum - Nasa's Mars habitats will never work, here's why.

[22:59] Dubby: trhe martian explorers are gonna die. everyone gunning for mars habitats wants to put them on the surface. there's just too many problems and hazards on the surface, nto to mention there's been so much erosion there's almost no chance they'd find evidence of life near the surface or on it. surface modules have to deal with ravaging dust storms, cataclysmic electrical storms, solar wind, radiation, cosmic rays, microscopic meteorites, and other shit flying at you from outer space.
[22:59] Dubby: their best bet is to build habitats underground, where they'd be protected from all those hazards. so instead of shipping those huge habitat modules to mars, ship cylindrical boring machines
[22:59] Dubby: to autonomously dig long slanted holes in the surface, extending a hundred feet below the surface or more which can then branch out with other mining machines to make a vastly larger habitat than what they'd get by just shipping a few modules or making mudbrick houses. (yes they thought of that as a serious habitat solution)
[23:01] Dubby: underground theyd' be protected from all the problems on the surface, including several that mere surface habitats cant protect against. not to mention underground greenhouses would be far safer for the plants, and the underground habitats could produce their own breathable air far more effeciently than surface greenhouses. because they'd rely on solar panels planted on the surface to send energy to solar generators (lights) underground with the light strength the plants are used to
[23:01] Dubby: it's a better solution all around, and communication with earth could be maintained by short-distance telemetry to satellites in orbit around mars, which then relay to earth with much stronger telemetry.
[23:02] Dubby: AND they'll be mch closer to groundwater
[23:02] Dubby: AND they'd have a much better chance at finding evidence of life in the ancient sedimentary rock below the surface
[23:03] Dubby: AND they'd be close to raw, usable materials and minerals for producing greenhouse gasses with industrial equipment
[23:03] Dubby: AND the temperature would be constant
[23:03] Dubby: by being underground
[23:03] Dubby: possibly even warmer, alot warmer
[23:04] Dubby: tyhe boring machine could also produce concrete from the martian soil to boot.
[23:04] Dubby: so instead of shipping 2 or 3 gigantic habitat modules to mars and h uge water tanks, they could be shipping mining equipment to build an underground habitat and use the groundwater there, and the underground minerals. PLUS if there IS life on mars, they will find it UNDERGROUND.
[23:05] Dubby: earth is literally COVERED in a layer of deep-rock dwelling bacterial goo, most of it is black and white and slimey and lumpy
[23:05] Dubby: very deep mines will find it everywhere, and that bacterial goo has been happily mucking out an existence for billions of years
[23:06] Dubby: there's been numerous occasions where the entire surface of earth was sterilized. not an extinction like the ones we find evidence for in sedimentary rock, but completely sterilized by a super-enormous impact large enough to break through the crust and tectonic plates. the deep-rock bacteria on the opposite side of the planet is immune to those events. and if there's still life on mars, it's going to be deep underground
[23:06] Zelaron: You should post some of this on my forum
[23:06] Dubby: hell, it MIGHT even be the same goo that's on earth
[23:07] Dubby: :<
[23:07] Zelaron: EVEN GUESTS CAN POST NOW! DISCORDIANISM FOR ALL!