Usual complaints against President Bush/Senator Kerry
 

Kerry:

Two-faced.
Inconsistant.
Dishonest.
Disgraceful.
3 trillian dollars worth of new programs, yet going to cut taxes for the middle class(very large majority of our country).
Has plans but doesn't say what they are.
His wife sucks donkey balls.
Scandals/lies/etc in general.



Bush:

Nucular.
Amurica.
Basically how he talks.
He's from the south.
He's stupid.
He doesn't do the popular thing.
Everything he does is wrong(even if he does the right wrong thing).


So, let's see...

Most of the complaints against Kerry are very serious and actually meaningful things that will affect us if he is president.

Most of the complaints against Bush are things people are misinformed about or are just completely stupid themselves.

Kerry or Bush?
BUSH

Kerry Bush or Nader?
Maybe Darth Nader, even though some of the things he thinks are really stupid($10 minimum wage).
Some of the things he thinks are good(1 cent stock tax on every trade).

That's not exactly how it went...

Not exactly how what went?

This has nothing to do with the debate, I just compiled what I normally hear people saying about each candidate and compared them.

i would have to agree with K_A. The list is pretty damn close to the truth.

Just vote libertarian. =[

And I would lean more toward kerry winning that debate tonight, not bush. It just seemed like kerry was better prepared.

Kerry was better prepared and he speaks very well. He was Debate 1337 in college. But i do think that he just criticized more than he proposed. he had the upper hand because he could play off what he thought were Bush's Mistakes.

However, i think they both repeated a lot. I did enjoy it though. (i never watch these things BTW)

It's not rehearsed or anything. I think Bush made better points than Kerry, and that's really what it is all about.

I think the debate sucked though, I can't wait to see Cheney own Edwards.

I think you are biased. I cant stand anyone throwing their opinons out on who won a debate when they are already solidly decided on a canidate. No hardcore kerry or hardcore bush fan will say the other side was better. Stop looking at it from what points you agreed on and look at it from a debate and intelligence contest view. And why is willy wonka wearing a can of peas and or beer on his head.

It's pawtucket pat from family guy.



I'm not hardcore either way, I'm more for Bush than Kerry but with good reason. Nader could be a pretty good president if he straightened out his views a bit.

Is it really possible to not be biased in politics?

I'd read that but I really don't see what it has to do with what I was talking about and it's on MTV.com.

I dont like bush or kerry. I am less bias then you on judging them =]

I'm the least biased as I think that anybody running for any political even is a complete and utter idiot.
I win :p

I'm not judging them, I'm comparing them by what MOST PEOPLE say about them. My opinion really didn't have much to do with it, not the first part anyway.

Nice point, KA. Finally somebody that knows what they're talking about.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Conversation over.

Well people keep saying Kerry was better prepared. You can't really prepare for something like that, they don't know the questions before-hand.

You must be confused somehow. They stand in a room and have mock debates, with someone roleplaying the other candidiate, someone roleplaying the questioneer.. and then they are asked "Now what do you say when asked this kind of question?"

Also.. the questions asked are "pre approved" questions by at least the Bush administration, even if they don't know the exact questions, they know the gist of it.

They are given General Ideas of Debate questions. Kerry and Bush each have their own like "prep team". Basically organizing thoughts, putting them together and presenting them in a common manner (for everyone to understand). And part of why people say Kerry was more prepared, is because he debated a hell of a lot more than Bush does. Hes got a ton of experience with it.

They can only guess what the questions will be, only the guy asking them knows them, he makes them himself.

They are both good debators.