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Kuja`s #1 2004-05-24 05:27 AM

Nick Berg.....really dead?C
 
http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

I'm not sure if I should believe them, but I have an inclination to since I don't like Bush.

The link above was provided to me by
http://www.peterwerbe.com
A sweet anti-Bush site.

HandOfHeaven 2004-05-24 06:20 AM

He's dead.

Kuja`s #1 2004-05-24 06:43 AM

Well, that was an error. I just wanted to show you the link, which asks who killed him.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-24 09:35 AM

It is a very intreging article...it has some good points in it. Plus experts analysed it and said it was a phoney. So who are you gonna believe; Experts or American Politicians and the news?

This will make another long debate.

D3V 2004-05-24 09:51 AM

Lest see, the Government is in control of the media, the media is in control of our lives, so whatever the media says we listen to and believe. But what the hell, we've been spoon fed everything we know about, the government may be shittin' us, we have no clue of finding out though..

Tyrannicide 2004-05-24 11:00 AM

That doesn't go for everybody. I dont believe everything just because the government or media said it. There is soem stuff that I dont care about. I know people at my school who look at news and shit and do a bunch of rersearch to argue against what has been said.

D3V 2004-05-24 12:17 PM

What the fuck are you talking about? You don't believe shit because the government or media said it.... Ok, when 9/11 happened... DID YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK? Were you at the pentagon? How the fuck do you know we landed on the moon? You don't, our lives are controlled by what we see and hear from them, and theres nothing that we can do about it

And I don't have to research anything, when there isn't anythign to research... Maybe I could read the book 1984, but thats just for entertainment. You stupid nigger, before you type something, make sure you hit the edit button as soon as your done so you can erase the bullshit you typed, and save yerself the humiliation.

Titusfied 2004-05-24 12:29 PM

Don't flame outside the Flame Forum.

You are right though, that was not the most thought out reply to say what Tyrannicide said, but nonetheless, he is entitled to his opinions. Fact is, the world relies on media to convey information happening around the world. You'd be dumb not to believe what you heard ever.

Penny_Bags 2004-05-24 02:34 PM

Yeah really. Not believing a word the media says is fucking retarded. Sure, there is some bias, Tyrrannicide, but do you not believe that there were people massacred in the Colombine shooting? Nooblet.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-24 03:58 PM

I didn't say i believe nothing. That Nick Berg thing, I dont truely believe happened due to the evidence that is circulating. I dont give a shit about everything that goes on.

I doubt some stuff, not every fucking thing needs to be believed!!!

Sorry that my ealier post didn't come out 100% perfect for you. Sorry I didn't make it clear. Want me to go edit it now?

Demosthenes 2004-05-24 05:13 PM

The media can be incorrect, and extremely biased. Don't blindly follow it, but don't completely disregard it either. Just keep your eyes open.

HandOfHeaven 2004-05-24 05:40 PM

Are you sure this evidence is not just Theories? Because theories are not always true. I want BOLD-FACED EXACT EVIDENCE!

Tai 2004-05-24 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titusfied
You'd be dumb not to believe what you heard ever.

Qoute, "Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see."

zagggon 2004-05-24 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V
Lest see, the Government is in control of the media, the media is in control of our lives, so whatever the media says we listen to and believe. But what the hell, we've been spoon fed everything we know about, the government may be shittin' us, we have no clue of finding out though..

That is pure shit D3V, pure shit.

frickaline 2004-05-31 11:45 AM

dead as a doornail.

Grav 2004-05-31 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
That is pure shit D3V, pure shit.

Uh, no it's not. Your saying so is pretty much proving what he said right.

We're only told what we're allowed to hear.

Not to say the government is going to strip us of all liberties and create a totalitarian government.. but they aren't the most open of sources, to be sure. As is any government..

frickaline 2004-05-31 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Uh, no it's not. Your saying so is pretty much proving what he said right.

We're only told what we're allowed to hear.

Not to say the government is going to strip us of all liberties and create a totalitarian government.. but they aren't the most open of sources, to be sure. As is any government..

yes, yes, we all know about government control. We know that disclosed in the white house docs we were supposed to be nuked by our own government so we could strike cuba back when they were pointing their pointy little missles at us. We know that they don't tell us everything, but...

in this case, I think it pretty likely that he's pretty dang dead.

Thanatos 2004-06-01 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagggon
That is pure shit D3V, pure shit.

No.. it's not. It's the truth, in fact. The government controls the media, if they didn't we would know a lot more about what is really happening in Iraq right now. Everybody believes the media, it does control us.

Example:

In Detroit, about 1,500 people are killed in a year by guns alone. Across the border in a city of Canada about the same size(I forget the name), you know how many people die in a year by gunshot? 3. 3 to 1500 with the same size city! Teh fux? It's because Canada's news doesn't focus on the negative shit. News in America: 80 more people died today in Iraq. News in Canada: We've got new-fangled seatbelts!

So, yes, I agree with D3V.

D3V 2004-06-01 09:11 AM

Yeah, Look on the news, EVERY DAY YOU HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE DIEING IN IRAQ. I honestly don't care anymore. Right around when 9/11 happened, I was glued to CNN, watching for updates for about a week straight, then I kinda got used to the bs, and realized its pointless.

EDIT: Our Government is like an abusive relationship. They beat us down with all the negatives things they can throw at us, but even though we don't like it, we always seem to come back for more.

Titusfied 2004-06-01 10:10 AM

What do you expect us to do, not watch the TV and go into complete anarchy and riot against it? Of course we keep coming back for more form our government, there is a reason after all, why the United States is so successful.


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