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snyth-fire 2003-01-02 01:18 AM

lookin fora good method on pvp barbs for killin sorcers
 
how the hell do u kill a good sorc with IO and ts maxed with teleport its pretty damn hard any advice?;)

ShaolinSoldier 2003-01-02 05:05 AM

Well, you could be really cheap and use a lot of absorb, heh. Or, you could use berserk. I find berserk to be a very good sorc killing skill. They can too easily avoid WW by teleporting out of the way, but if they see you running at them, they probably think you're going to WW and they probably only teleport a little bit away so they can hit you when you are vulnerable. Well, if they do this and you have berserk locked on when running at them, they'll move over a bit, and then you'll just take one big swipe at them and they go, "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" and die.

Raxnara 2003-01-02 12:17 PM

The most effective strategy I've seen for barbs to use against my sorc is to make me come to him and not go after her. He obviously can't catch her, so the best is to just wait until she comes close enough and then give her a ww or zerk her.

Mantralord 2003-01-02 06:04 PM

i like warcry'ing them when they get close...then a simple ww does the trick

Apoq 2003-01-03 07:27 AM

what i do with my barb is...

a few ways
you want to have atleast 100% r/w for jumping them when they get close
B ---- B ---- B
/ ```````` \
B-------S ----- B
\ ```````` /
B ---- B ---- B
..thats the battle plan strafe them until they start teleporting around you..
the average to smart sorc will try to get about a screen and a half away from you so that her orbs will hit you
what you have to do is run around her and ww right into the area you think she is going to be at
i also reccomend taking off your shield if you have maxed lit/fire resists without it so that you deal more damage
more damage=she run out of mana quicker because of energy shield
the first hit you get in which drains all a sorcs mana will usually keep her standing waiting for the mana to regenerate
you can implement bezerk into this but you have to becareful, and make sure your'e not just chasing her ..taking all the orbs she throws out and if the sorc is hydra you have to zig-zag
to avoid hydra but closer to her and if you can't linearly get closer strafe her until she teleports to an exploitable area

undeadzombieguy 2003-01-04 04:34 AM

or get teleport charges and surprise her :) teleport next ot her and a ww will do the trick

Adrenachrome 2003-01-04 03:05 PM

If my barb hits a sorc 2 handed there is no worrying about energy sheild. (1 hit kill)

Apoq 2003-01-04 09:32 PM

adrena i think i said to use 2handed :)
more damage=less sorc's mana=less teleporting=faster to get to=dead

blckshdwdragon 2003-01-06 01:37 PM

you could have armor swap wit a g angel tgods or snow depeinding on the sorc. read the sorcs attack patterns doge the orb/hydra ts is nothing when u got a tgods + g angel and 95 LR. forcing the sorc to come to you cuz they all tend to be impatient and when they come close ww/zerk or however u kill stuff (double throw, w/e) if the sorcs decides to be patient then u must be as well if they decide to stay a while in a spot and shoot wutever at you run and smack'em and be sure to have atleast 150% effective running speed or you will never hit em or just use some teleport charges they wont expect it... hope this helps a bit

Apoq 2003-01-08 01:24 PM

teleport charges arent as effective as many will have you believe, becuase they may already be orbing in the split second they see you dissappear,
150% effective is nearly impossible to get,
i suggest having fewer points in sword mastery in more in running skill if you have any to spare

blckshdwdragon 2003-01-08 11:12 PM

umm apoq theres a diff formula im look at its a bit different than u think and my old barb i made had 207% effective running speed, and i have been using a tele barb since 08 and they have been very effective if u practice with it even if theres a 2 second cast delay for a barb on a sorc 18 of 20 times ive tele'ed wrong and good ole 5k+ ww max seems to do fine in 1 tele ww(cant remeber formula)

(ps. note i said effective not total)

tidus2005 2003-01-10 08:15 AM

my friend has a good barb and he sucks at killing sorc's so i came over and started to kill them for him by jumping i just get a jump lock on them and just keep jumping i kill sorces in one hit with a gf
but any good sorc just teles behind and orbs so i figured that i can jump where they were then when they start to orb i just ww back at them because they are generaly not ready to deal with it cuz they are orbing so i kill them. :)

Apoq 2003-01-11 05:02 PM

that means your probably dealing with cathans staff using sorcs -.-

i'd like to duel you with my sorc, versus your barbs, i'd like to see 207% affective r/w
is that including frenzy or something on switch then switch to 2hander?

tidus2005 2003-01-13 08:20 AM

no they arent cathans using soces but my friend barb has 4k life and maxed light and cold resist so it takes a lot of ts to even take me down to half :)
but u are right that most of the sorces are stupid because some of them try to run away instead of teleing

blckshdwdragon 2003-01-14 01:08 AM

i would love to duel u apoq msg me sometime but i play west if ur on east ill start a barb maybe or something unless anyway one can hook me up wit a decent arreat/shaft rig wit tele ammy, come on west and we'll make u run for more than ur money;)

o and i for got the most important dual leech ring and of course a good sword (Ith ;) )

Apoq 2003-01-14 06:33 AM

i'm on east -.-, if you use ith i'll use my holyfreeze merc with ethereal ferocious colo voulge of quickness, ber shaft, ber 08 gaze

71% dr 1400 hp 5000 damage you feeling lucky ^.^

blckshdwdragon 2003-01-14 06:34 PM

think again my dear boy never underestimate ur opponet, BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont care bout ur pet, cuz on west too many sorcs wit new ith bow/ wf's cant touch me :) bring ur merc i've been freezed flamed, pounded, and i can still win rain or shine or a thunderstorm ill dance in the rain holding a 10meter metal pole standing straight while im holding onto it i can still win :killgrin: :grin: :killgrin: :grin: :killgrin: :grin: ;)

btw: can he take a 8k ww?!?!?!(1 hand) 14k (2 handed) at max bp?!?!?!

Apoq 2003-01-14 07:31 PM

its 'opponent'
new ith bow doesnt do more damage on a merc then 5k does it?
if your'e freezed how you gonna catch me so fast ^.^
besides im 8 frame cast, i can get 7 frame with max dr if you want me to borrow some friends wizspike rings ^,^

blckshdwdragon 2003-01-15 04:37 PM

is this an english class?!?!?! anyway go on right ahead and use ur wiz spike rings i dont care i go on 7 frame casters and i said new ith/wf quote the "/" (been froze by lvl 20 freeeze still ran like cat) anyway are we just talk or are we gonna duel and if so whos coming to who and who will hook who up?!?! this should be truly interesting like a clash of titans o and goto the koz forum and read gsus's post(koz beats BoS) on my win a long time ago if u think less of me.... all this talk is making me sick lets duke it out:killgrin: :jump: :korean: :slice:

dirkdig 2003-01-16 11:24 AM

wiz rings give faster block, not cast. Faster cast is only on uswest O_o


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