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!King_Amazon! 2010-09-24 05:26 PM

Biden's 'Republican Tea Party' Remarks Prompt Negative Reactions On Capitol Hill
 
These are the relevant comments:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi68mwuFYow

After Vice President Joe Biden said the alternative to a Democratically controlled Congress is the "Republican Tea Party," lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have moved to distance themselves from his remarks.

"I can't imagine any elected official making fun of people becoming highly involved in the electoral process," said Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) when asked to comment on Biden's remarks. "I just don't see how that's healthy. And yes, I think people who might criticize people getting highly engaged in the electoral process -- I think that's problematic and I just don't understand why one would perceive criticizing that to be a good thing."

Democrats dealt with the matter a bit more delicately.

"I think there are some fine people who are concerned about the size of the government, concerned about tax structure, concerned about the future," said Ben Nelson (D-Neb.). "And what we ought to do is have a dialogue."

"Accurately analyzing Tea Party supporters can be difficult," said Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.). "So I try to avoid kind of broad generalizations or broad categories. It's always dangerous to generalize."

At a fundraiser for Gov. Ted Strickland in Ohio, Biden linked the GOP to the Tea Party, suggesting Democrats will run against the conservative activists. "Don't compare me to the Almighty, compare me to the alternative," he said, according the pool report. "The Republican Tea Party is the alternative."

Biden's approach reflects a strategy being considered by the White House, according to the New York Times. The White House, however, denies it.

Lawmakers at the Capitol on Tuesday told HuffPost that it's probably a good idea to pursue a new strategy and not to antagonize Tea Party members.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) told reporters that the grassroots activism we've seen so far is just "the tip of the iceberg," and that while the activist logo of the Tea Party seems to be more linked to the Republican party, "Republicans, Democrats and Independents are just fed up with our government."

Corker, unsurprisingly, agrees.

"At the town hall meetings that I experienced in Tennessee," said Corker, "there was a real sober concern that people had about -- especially debt. Who isn't concerned about our indebtedness right now? It is out of control... I think most of the people who have become highly engaged in this election this year that haven't in the past, have focused on that issue. So how can you not agree that that's something that we have to deal with as a country?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_734800.html

Full speech in case you want it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDULxNcWlTE

KagomJack 2010-09-24 09:12 PM

They are mostly angry former Republicans and a lot of right wingers. At least here and when I hear anything about them.

D3V 2010-09-25 07:56 AM

I would guestimate about 2-5% of the 'tea partiers' are democrats/former democrats. And 99.999% of those don't know shit about political issues.

!King_Amazon! 2010-09-25 09:57 AM

1. Stating the blindingly obvious as fact is not proper these days if you are a politician. You're expected to be PC in every way possible, which is stupid. Biden is just stating the truth.

2. Most politicians are lying cowards. They are cowards because they aren't brave enough to say what they are actually thinking rather than what they think we want to hear. Biden is one that tends to just say whatever the fuck is on his mind at the moment which gets him in trouble a lot, but at least you can expect that what you are seeing is pretty much what you get with him. Cowards quoted:

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Originally Posted by Cowards
"I think there are some fine people who are concerned about the size of the government, concerned about tax structure, concerned about the future," said Ben Nelson (D-Neb.). "And what we ought to do is have a dialogue."

"Accurately analyzing Tea Party supporters can be difficult," said Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.). "So I try to avoid kind of broad generalizations or broad categories. It's always dangerous to generalize."

These are democrats who are basically sidestepping the questions at hand so they don't completely lose the Tea Party votes they may have, as if they have any to begin with. They are being typical politicians trying to please and be nice to everyone and simultaneously fuck everyone over without getting caught.

3. I firmly believe that the Tea Party and anyone associated with them should be publicly ridiculed regardless of who you are. It isn't as if the democrats are going to lose Tea Party votes for calling them out. I also think it's bad that the vice president is facing backlash for telling the truth.

D3V 2010-09-27 09:49 AM

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3. I firmly believe that the Tea Party and anyone associated with them should be publicly ridiculed regardless of who you are. It isn't as if the democrats are going to lose Tea Party votes for calling them out. I also think it's bad that the vice president is facing backlash for telling the truth.
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This. And that goes too for anyone on any side of the political spectrum that sidesteps and panders away from legitimate questions and concerns. I like Florida's governor race given that Charie Crist is now running as an independent. An actual legitimate candidate that will probably get the reelection as an 'I' may finally start to change the political landscape..

We need not to agree with each other, but disagree. Pretending to agree and perpetuating the arguments of abortion and other useless time driven tactics are so overly exposed that the flock of sheep on both sides just keep following their puppeteer and we're never going to escape.

Skurai 2010-09-27 03:22 PM

That last person who does is you. :>

Chrystalia 2010-10-20 05:58 AM

Annoy the tea party: love thy neighbor.

Skurai 2010-10-24 07:34 PM

I just wish their name wasn't so darn clever, or else I might dislike them more.


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