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Wolfturn 2009-03-03 02:35 PM

Free-Basic anyone?
 
Anyone messed with Free-basic? I've been playing around with it, and it seems like a pretty decent language thats easy. Anyone else ever done anything with it?

Lenny 2009-03-03 03:31 PM

I'm going to assume that it shares more or less the same syntax as all the other BASICs, in which case I'll answer your question with a general "Yes" - though I've done a lot of VisualBASIC 6 coding, which is event-driven rather than OO. For a 'toy language' though, it's incredibly powerful.

Once you've got your head around OOP, move onto something more popular and widely-used, like Java or C++ (they may horrible languages, but that's what a lot of the world is written in... well, for the next for years or so, and then the wheel will turn again and Java will be replaced in Universities by a different language, which will filter its way up the food chain and take over, until the next langauge... and the next... and so on).

Wolfturn 2009-03-03 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny (Post 667468)
I'm going to assume that it shares more or less the same syntax as all the other BASICs, in which case I'll answer your question with a general "Yes" - though I've done a lot of VisualBASIC 6 coding, which is event-driven rather than OO. For a 'toy language' though, it's incredibly powerful.

Once you've got your head around OOP, move onto something more popular and widely-used, like Java or C++ (they may horrible languages, but that's what a lot of the world is written in... well, for the next for years or so, and then the wheel will turn again and Java will be replaced in Universities by a different language, which will filter its way up the food chain and take over, until the next langauge... and the next... and so on).

I tried to learn VisualBasic Using Visual Basic 2008 Express Edition. But, I couldn't find any decent tutorials other than, "How to make a web Browser" and useless stuff like that. Where did you learn Visual Basic?
(Shuts eyes and hopes He did not go to college)

Lenny 2009-03-03 05:27 PM

Anything above VB6 is broken. VB 2005 was a horrible exercise in trying to mix event-driven- and object oriented programming, and I don't think there's a stable version of VB 2008 yet. VB6, one the other hand, is fantastic - pure, event-driven programming.

I'm afraid to say that I did learn VB6 at college (though the English version of college - years 12 and 13. I believe that what Americans call "college" is what we call "University").

Wallow 2009-03-03 07:25 PM

I'm learning Visual Basic in school right now. Pretty easy to grasp.
Next year's course involves Java, so hopefully enough students sign up for it so that it takes place.

WetWired 2009-03-03 08:32 PM

I learned VB the same way I learn most new computer languages -- by playing with other peoples' code. This assumes that you've learned to program in some other language already; otherwise it probably won't work out very well. Anyway, find an example that does something interesting, then figure out how to tweak it. Keep doing larger and larger tweaks and eventually you'll know enough to convert it into your own application. After that, you'll know how to start from scratch.

Goodlookinguy 2009-03-03 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WetWired (Post 667483)
I learned VB the same way I learn most new computer languages -- by playing with other peoples' code. This assumes that you've learned to program in some other language already; otherwise it probably won't work out very well. Anyway, find an example that does something interesting, then figure out how to tweak it. Keep doing larger and larger tweaks and eventually you'll know enough to convert it into your own application. After that, you'll know how to start from scratch.


This is exactly what I do now. How strange...

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Though I haven't directly touched Free BASIC, I've dealt with DarkBASIC, BlitzBASIC, and VB.NET. They're all simple. However, I didn't start out with those. I started doing ASM and C++ as my first languages because I felt that starting on the hardest and going to the easiest would be the best idea for learning. However, it was a horrible experience, but because of it I really know how computers work. That's really all, there's nothing else. php has since become my favorite and most studied programming language.

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Lenny, you kind of insult VB.NET likes it's awful, yet I've created games in it. It's a plenty strong language, and the use of OOP and the mixed style is what makes the system great. I've taken a liking to it as it cuts my time down for doing projects by more than eighty percent at times. Then again, I never dealt with VB6 so I don't know what that was like, though I hear a lot of people rip on the language saying it's not as good as VB.NET. So I question what you like about. In fact, could you explain why you like it? Maybe a few screenshots showing why you like it more over VB.NET. I personally will consider learning VB6 if I find it interesting, just so that I know both languages.

WetWired 2009-03-04 12:06 AM

vb.net isn't VB. That's about all there is to it. If you're going to learn a new language, why learn VB.net when you could learn C++.net and be able to do the same things and more?
VB6 is very similar to VBA, which is used for MSOffice scripting, so probably worth knowing.

My first language was Advanced Basic (BASICA.COM, came with DOS 3.3). Learned by RTFM.
My second language was Turbo Pascal 5.5 (with OOP). Learned by RTFM.
My third language was Turbo Assembler. Learned by RTFM.
My fourth language was C++. Learned in HS. Cheated a lot with inline-assembly at first...
Past that I've learned anything else by the method previously stated.
Eventually learned OWL and MFC in HS, wrote windows apps when my peers were writing console apps for assignments.
I skirted with ASM for a while, but never really learned it
Learned C (or rather the differences between C and C++) for my job.
Eventually learned PHP to work on this site.
Eventually learned javascript to write the chatbox (had skirted with it before, but never really understood what I was doing)

This is excluding minor languages like WordPerfect macroing language, calculator programming languages, etc. There are also non-procedural languages that I've learned like HTML, SQL, XSLT, XPATH...

Wallow 2009-03-04 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy (Post 667490)
This is exactly what I do now. How strange...

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Though I haven't directly touched Free BASIC, I've dealt with DarkBASIC, BlitzBASIC, and VB.NET. They're all simple. However, I didn't start out with those. I started doing ASM and C++ as my first languages because I felt that starting on the hardest and going to the easiest would be the best idea for learning. However, it was a horrible experience, but because of it I really know how computers work. That's really all, there's nothing else. php has since become my favorite and most studied programming language.

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Lenny, you kind of insult VB.NET likes it's awful, yet I've created games in it. It's a plenty strong language, and the use of OOP and the mixed style is what makes the system great. I've taken a liking to it as it cuts my time down for doing projects by more than eighty percent at times. Then again, I never dealt with VB6 so I don't know what that was like, though I hear a lot of people rip on the language saying it's not as good as VB.NET. So I question what you like about. In fact, could you explain why you like it? Maybe a few screenshots showing why you like it more over VB.NET. I personally will consider learning VB6 if I find it interesting, just so that I know both languages.

Did you just google C++ and ASM to learn them?

Goodlookinguy 2009-03-04 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallow (Post 667542)
Did you just google C++ and ASM to learn them?


Nope, I was inside Barns and Nobles store and saw Assembly and it seemed like an interesting name for a programming language, the same goes for C++ because that was the same time and place that I bought a C++ book. I wanted to start programming after I saw some really cool program. That's about all, I don't even remember the program, but it was awesome to me back in 2002.


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