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D3V 2008-09-08 11:04 AM

Multi-Billion dollar experiment.
 
Very exciting to hear about this about to finally take place. I remember hearing about this a while ago, probably about 3-4 months. Should be interesting to see what they can unveil with this amount of though process put into it, i'll try and keep it updated to see what, if anything comes from this experiment.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/08/l...der/index.html

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Large Hadron Collider will have first attempt at circulating a beam September 10

It's the largest particle accelerator in the world and costs about $9 billion

Lawsuits allege it could generate black holes that could eat the Earth

Scientists say these allegations have no merit
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/TE...alice.cern.jpg

Thanatos 2008-09-08 11:07 AM

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=hadron

Dickhead.

Tuttifrutti 2008-09-08 11:08 AM

oh is this that thing where they're gonna try to split an atom or something and theres a 1 in some odd chance that it could end the world? lol.

D3V 2008-09-08 11:09 AM

AH WTF! That thread didnt show up on my new threads list, wtf. Okay trash can this shit.

!King_Amazon! 2008-09-08 12:53 PM

There aren't really specific odds as far as how likely it is that it will end the world, just a bunch of theories. Nobody really knows what will happen until they do it, though. Not really worth the risk, in my opinion, even if it's unlikely to do anything bad. What do we really gain from it anyway? Spend the billions it cost to do this on feeding people instead.

Willkillforfood 2008-09-08 12:54 PM

Fusion break throughts, possibly, understanding the big bang, and perhaps other things. They're also looking for a "god particle."

!King_Amazon! 2008-09-08 12:58 PM

I like theoretical physics more than your average person, and would love to know stuff like that, but I still can't see how the information we might gain from it justifies the possibility that we might also end our existance, nor can I see how it justifies spending so much money on something like this when we could spend it on more practical things like medical/energy/technology research. As cool as I think it is, I think it's a big waste of money as well, with an unjustified risk involved.

Tuttifrutti 2008-09-08 01:04 PM

all those damned scientists just wanna look big and important :D

D3V 2008-09-08 01:04 PM

I don't see any risk involved.

Tuttifrutti 2008-09-08 01:06 PM

.. they're saying that the world could end, as in we could all die. its a very small chance, but still, there's a chance.

Chruser 2008-09-08 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 650691)
I don't see any risk involved.


Say that to eternity.

D3V 2008-09-08 01:23 PM

They already have the green-light, I have faith in those scientists. The only people saying it could end the world don't know what they're talking about.

!King_Amazon! 2008-09-08 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 650695)
They already have the green-light, I have faith in those scientists. The only people saying it could end the world don't know what they're talking about.

Nobody knows what they are talking about. The only thing anyone can do is theorize. Theories can be, and quite often are, wrong.

D3V 2008-09-08 01:37 PM

I wouldn't mind some destruction.

!King_Amazon! 2008-09-08 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D3V (Post 650695)
The only people saying it could end the world don't know what they're talking about.

Also, in response to this. Dr. Walter L. Wagner is one of the two people that are suing the people that are running this experiment to attempt to stop them.

http://www.wiki1.net/groups/uploads/...erLWagner1.doc

See that link. The important part is on page 2 and beyond, where he describes his professional background, such as when he discovered a novel particle that had only been theorized to exist beforehand. I don't think I would consider him someone that doesn't know what he's talking about. I would say that his theories are probably just as valid as anyone elses.

Kazilla 2008-09-08 01:49 PM

you realize if you were to obtain this, destruction. that it would be the last destruction you ever had?

D3V 2008-09-08 02:07 PM

Well, the world is supposed to end in 2012,right? This may not have a direct effect as the world explodes or something immideately, but it could open a black hole which over time could destroy the atmosphere or something, but if Hawking is right and a small black hole was created it would just eat itself away and disappear.

Kazilla 2008-09-08 02:25 PM

also in 2009 california is suppose to be disconnected from the US by a series of earthquakes. or so some part of the bible says

!King_Amazon! 2008-09-08 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V (Post 650715)
Well, the world is supposed to end in 2012,right? This may not have a direct effect as the world explodes or something immideately, but it could open a black hole which over time could destroy the atmosphere or something, but if Hawking is right and a small black hole was created it would just eat itself away and disappear.

I can't remember who it was, but some professor calculated how long it would take for a microscopic black hole to grow large enough to devour the earth, and it was something like 50 months, which creepily ended up meaning that if a microscopic black hole was created by the Large Hadron Collider when it goes live, the black hole would be large enough to devour the earth sometime in December 2012. Wish I could remember who it was.

Anyway, yeah, Hawking radiation would mean that the microscopic black hole would end up just dissipating, but Hawking radiation has never been experimentally demonstrated. As awesome as Stephen Hawking is, he's been wrong before, and he could be wrong about Hawking radiation.

D3V 2008-09-08 02:37 PM

I'd like to see where it says that in the bible, but I wouldn't write it off. We have so many things that could go wrong at any point, but that's just a part of life. Apparently the Canary islands off the coast of Africa are on the verge of falling into the ocean off the mountains there, which could potentially cause a huge 300ft tidal wave of eastern seaboard destruction.


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