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landing on the moon, fake!?

been hearing alot lately that we didnt actually make it to the moon, we shot the whole thing in hollywood. and that red bull commercial doesnt help nasa's case very much. anyone heard of this?

Ive heard about it, but no one has really shown me any "facts".

This is horribly old.

Horribly and exasperatingly. I'm pretty sure the controversy was there from the beginning. It's just not that interesting to begin with, anyway.

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Originally Posted by Kazilla

been hearing alot lately that we didnt actually make it to the moon, we shot the whole thing in hollywood. and that red bull commercial doesnt help nasa's case very much. anyone heard of this?

Obviously Red Bull has done a lot of investigation into the conspiracy.

I tell you what is interesting. Mexico's government acknowledging that it has seen like flying saucers or some shit.

what about the existance of aliens? i've read a lot of websites(im not saying that what they say is true) about aliens and i have a few pics of mutated yet symetrical skulls on my hard drive if anyone would like to take a look. we should make a poll: "who here thinks aliens exist and what proof do they have" that'd be cool

None of us have proof that aliens exist you crazy fucker. It's a matter of opinion. If there were proof, there would be only fact.

ok fine then relative proof. ya happy now?!

Do I think that life on planets other than Earth exists? Yes. The universe is too big for just us. Do I think they have visited Earth and the government is covering it up? No idea, though I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Life exists on every planet. Just not intelligent life. They've found bacteria on Mars, they've found bacteria on Europa, they'll probably find bacteria on the frozen wastes of Pluto.

As for the moon landing, of course it was faked.

They filmed it on a film set.

On Mars.

Watched a documentary yesterday on space travel and such. One of the scientests behind the nuclear propulsion unit being developed for Mars says we should have been on Mars in the mid 70's. Talk about a bummer, eh? Really interesting fact ...you can get 100,000,000 times the thrust from a nuclear propulsion unit's fuel's mass as a conventional chemical rocket.

I believe that there is other intelligent life somewhere in the universe. Like JR said, it's just too big for us to be the only ones. I also wouldn't be surprised if that other intelligent life made us look like mentally retarded monkeys. We're close enough as it is without something to compare ourselves to. We've just evolved pass the poo-flinging stage.

Most of us, that is.

wouldn't using a nuclear propulsion unit leave behind a lot of irradiated stuff? therefore wouldn't it be quite dumb for them to use it on earth?

Not really. The emissions, if they keep their eyes on them, would be pretty safe. And if it blows up in outer space, well, it ain't gonna do any harm.

The only problem is having it on the Space Shuttle during Exit/re-entry. What if it blows up then? Dirty Bomb high in the sky, anyone?

It's like Russian Subs, but different. They have their own Nuclear Reactors. Easier than carting around a load of fuel...and if it goes critical and blows a hole in the side, well, it sinks to the bottom of the sea and nobody gets hurt.

except for every other living creature down there which will either die..... or mutate into something and come after us!!!!! AIIEEEEE!!!!

Just kidding

:p It could do.

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Advocates of nuclear powered rocket engines point out that at the time of launch, there is almost no radiation released from the nuclear reactors. The nuclear-powered rockets aren't used to get off the ground, just to get to and from Mars, to generate power during the trip, and to brake into Mars and eventually Earth orbit on the return trip.

A little thing I've just found in an article.

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Nuclear-reactor rockets, like the ones that would be used in the Bimodal Nuclear Thermal Rocket, conduct nuclear fission reactions -- the same kind employed at nuclear power plants -- in which uranium atoms are split apart, releasing tremendous volumes of energy. In a nuclear thermal rocket, this energy is used to heat hydrogen propellant, which is stored aboard the rocket as liquid in supercooled fuel tanks.

The strength of nuclear propulsion is that it is more efficient than traditional chemically-propelled rockets. "It is the next step evolutionary step in chemical propulsion and it has twice the propellant mileage of the chemical rockets that we currently use," Borowski said.

All rockets require fuel. Chemical rocket engines burn it, heating up the fuel and accelerating the combustion byproducts out a rocket nozzle. Nuclear thermal engines employ a very compact mass of nuclear fuel to release tremendous amounts of energy. That energy is used to heat lightweight hydrogen gas, and shoot it through a nozzle to get thrust. The nuclear reaction heats the hydrogen to much higher velocities than chemical combustion can.

"For a given amount of propellant then, we can either carry a lot more payload, or we can - for the same amount of payload - travel faster to our destination," Borowski said. "Or we can just decide to travel at the same speed as the chemical with the same payload and just require a lot less mass and maybe a smaller vehicle."

And that's how it works.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...rs_000521.html

I haven't entirely read the article (skipped the last section), but what I have read sounds VERY interesting.

I hate it when people start spouting about the dangers of radiation from Nuclear Fission reactors and what not. Modern day designs cut out a lot of radiation...and if you look at figures and statistics, the Nuclear Power and Nuclear Weapons industries contribute to about 8% of deaths to Radiation. We get more radiation from Radon gas and the rocks around us for heavens sake!

And that's me all red in the face. :) We ought to all these NIMBY's to the reactor and watch it go critical.

smoke detectors have tiny bits of radioactive shit in them. Eat them.

Americium. Gives off alpha particles which ionises the surrounding air, giving it a slight electric current. Smoke reacts with the aplha particles, breaks the electric current, and sets off the alarm.

..............alrighty then.... thank you for that bit of info ;)

A boyscout got hundreds of them in an attempt to make his own fission reactor. He almost died :P.