Multi-Billion dollar experiment.
 

Very exciting to hear about this about to finally take place. I remember hearing about this a while ago, probably about 3-4 months. Should be interesting to see what they can unveil with this amount of though process put into it, i'll try and keep it updated to see what, if anything comes from this experiment.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/08/l...der/index.html

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/TE...alice.cern.jpg

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ghlight=hadron

Dickhead.

oh is this that thing where they're gonna try to split an atom or something and theres a 1 in some odd chance that it could end the world? lol.

AH WTF! That thread didnt show up on my new threads list, wtf. Okay trash can this shit.

There aren't really specific odds as far as how likely it is that it will end the world, just a bunch of theories. Nobody really knows what will happen until they do it, though. Not really worth the risk, in my opinion, even if it's unlikely to do anything bad. What do we really gain from it anyway? Spend the billions it cost to do this on feeding people instead.

Fusion break throughts, possibly, understanding the big bang, and perhaps other things. They're also looking for a "god particle."

I like theoretical physics more than your average person, and would love to know stuff like that, but I still can't see how the information we might gain from it justifies the possibility that we might also end our existance, nor can I see how it justifies spending so much money on something like this when we could spend it on more practical things like medical/energy/technology research. As cool as I think it is, I think it's a big waste of money as well, with an unjustified risk involved.

all those damned scientists just wanna look big and important :D

I don't see any risk involved.

.. they're saying that the world could end, as in we could all die. its a very small chance, but still, there's a chance.

Say that to eternity.

They already have the green-light, I have faith in those scientists. The only people saying it could end the world don't know what they're talking about.

Nobody knows what they are talking about. The only thing anyone can do is theorize. Theories can be, and quite often are, wrong.

I wouldn't mind some destruction.

Also, in response to this. Dr. Walter L. Wagner is one of the two people that are suing the people that are running this experiment to attempt to stop them.

http://www.wiki1.net/groups/uploads/...erLWagner1.doc

See that link. The important part is on page 2 and beyond, where he describes his professional background, such as when he discovered a novel particle that had only been theorized to exist beforehand. I don't think I would consider him someone that doesn't know what he's talking about. I would say that his theories are probably just as valid as anyone elses.

you realize if you were to obtain this, destruction. that it would be the last destruction you ever had?

Well, the world is supposed to end in 2012,right? This may not have a direct effect as the world explodes or something immideately, but it could open a black hole which over time could destroy the atmosphere or something, but if Hawking is right and a small black hole was created it would just eat itself away and disappear.

also in 2009 california is suppose to be disconnected from the US by a series of earthquakes. or so some part of the bible says

I can't remember who it was, but some professor calculated how long it would take for a microscopic black hole to grow large enough to devour the earth, and it was something like 50 months, which creepily ended up meaning that if a microscopic black hole was created by the Large Hadron Collider when it goes live, the black hole would be large enough to devour the earth sometime in December 2012. Wish I could remember who it was.

Anyway, yeah, Hawking radiation would mean that the microscopic black hole would end up just dissipating, but Hawking radiation has never been experimentally demonstrated. As awesome as Stephen Hawking is, he's been wrong before, and he could be wrong about Hawking radiation.

I'd like to see where it says that in the bible, but I wouldn't write it off. We have so many things that could go wrong at any point, but that's just a part of life. Apparently the Canary islands off the coast of Africa are on the verge of falling into the ocean off the mountains there, which could potentially cause a huge 300ft tidal wave of eastern seaboard destruction.

maybe its just me but what i get from this experiment is this...

ok folks what we are going to try and do is (insert all the scientific knowhow here). there is a 1 in 59,000,000(? unsure) chance of it destroying the earth. and we are going to do it these comming months, and then again later if we do good.

which to me translates to this...

ok guys, i have this weapon. it is bigger then any atom bomb you could think of, it makes little boy and fat man look like a cherry bomb. now, my plan is to fire it directly into the earth, preferrably on a dead end course to the earths core. now, im pretty sure we will be ok but there are skiptisist who feel im going to destroy the earth... i just want to thank those of you who are supporting me

i dont understand this experiment at all

The more i'm hearing about this experiment the more frightening it becomes, but it's out of my power to do anything.

i dont remember the program i was watching, and am not 100% positive it was from the bible, but it was a religeous belief. it said that in 2012 the world would end, and 2009 california will be removed from the US. Thats when i decided that if this thing actually happens in 2009 ill rethink my views on this whole god mumbo jumbo

Heh. No clue either. I'm pretty updated on what the Bible says and I don't remember anything being that specific, the Bible usually speaks in more general terms. Even Deuteromy (sp*) which was more about the bad shit in the world wasn't too specific.

the 'item' they were reading this from has predicted everything that has happened in the world to date.

Well just to play devil's advocate here, if you go and read most of the stuff they have down to "date" you can make it a coincidence with tons of other events in history, even stuff that was happening back at the time the Bible was being written.

Unlikely. Sounds like Nostradamus and his predictions. Most likely they were vague predictions at best.

vague or not. somehow we managed to link obama and biden to osama bin laden... people believe his predictions whole heartedly (if it were him im still unsure) they said in 2009 california will disappear, and the appoc will be in 2012

Did you just admit to being a moron? And believeing in things that are completely false/vague?



I don't get it.

no no, im saying that people believe vague shit. i stated earlier in this thread somewhere that if i were to ever believe in this almighty being some call god - then california will be drifting away next year. as of now i think its all bullshit but there are peopl who believe in it

Oh okay sorry, my reading comprehension is still shitty. I think most of it is stupid, and irregardless most of the things wrong with this world are out of my hands, I just hope I can vote for Obama and make things slightly better for this shithole of a planet we live in (have turned it into)..

So they turn this on tomorrow, eh? Nice knowing you guys.

im not even going to get to play warhammer >.> shall we make a goodbye zelaron thread just in case?

Well, nothing has happened yet. Keep in mind it takes like 1-2 months to fully power up.

They aren't actually colliding any particles yet; they're just going to spin the beam of particles around (initially at approximately 7% of its intended level of energy usage, which is less than what has already been used in Fermilab), and collide them in October.

Anyway, it can hardly hurt to keep your crowbar close to the mad scientists, just in case:

http://www.zelaron.com/gear/1220360595652.jpg

Haha, that's great.

LOL, Nice!

I wouldn't expect anything to happen. You've got to figure the Earth is being hit by particles that are much more damaging every single day than what they are doing here. As well, this experiment is controlled so that they can study it. The people claiming the world is going to come to an end just don't know what they are talking about (I'd assume it's safe to say religion is involved one way or another).

It's hard to really compare this to what happens in nature, though, because what happens in nature isn't happening necessarily the same way.

Either way, Hawking radiation makes sense. It's unlikely anything will go wrong.

I'm actually excited as to what they may find. Possibilities of how the Universe was formed? The last peice of the element table? Proof of other dimensions? So many different things are being put onto the table with this experiement, but it will probably be years before anything substantial is proven or disproven.

I'm pretty excited myself. I still think it's a waste of money :P