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JohnnyTAE 2002-09-05 01:23 PM

Should a 13 year old be tried as an adult?
 
Should a 13 year old boy who is suspected of murder be tried as an adult??

Hades-Knight 2002-09-05 01:35 PM

the 13 yr old kid said that that man raped himand shit lol, he problably kiled hsi dad to go live with his lover (the guyw ho helped them do soemthing, not sure what)

Penguin 2002-09-05 04:35 PM

shit i read bout that case,

If the kid is grown enough to say "Well im in love with this 30-40 year old guy" and has a sexual life with that dude, and admits to being gay, then he is old enough to be tried as an adult... But then again life in jail is a bit harsh... id put him away for like 30 years


Also a kid like that, in JAIL with other grown men? heh, it dosent matter if hes gay or not, hes gonna get passed around that damn jail either way, so he'll be gay anyway =0

Jamesadin 2002-09-05 05:04 PM

yes he should, he/she is old enough to be responsible for his actions

Hades-Knight 2002-09-05 05:35 PM

hes gonan be ass pwn3d .... literally

Grav 2002-09-05 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin
id put him away for like 30 years


You hate gays.

"CRØNîC-KîLLå" 2002-09-05 07:28 PM

i would put him away, nobody can escape murder charges and get unpunished. Put em away for a bit but at LEAST reduce the sentence time to half because of his young age, the kid hasent even produced pubes... when your a kid you can do many stupid things.

Jamesadin 2002-09-05 09:29 PM

heh, hes still in the "bald" stage. But It kinda defpends on the charge.

Penguin 2002-09-05 11:36 PM

Think about it ! he walks up to his sleeping father and BASHES HIS BRAINS OUT SEVERAL TIMES, then walks away to live with his gay partner

Jamesadin 2002-09-06 08:16 AM

well, he deserves to be tried as a adult then

Chruser 2002-09-06 08:42 AM

How about "Yes, even if there isn't enough evidence to prove the case, since that's how grownups are treated"?

A mistake is always a mistake, even kids know that. Some just don't realize how badly they have screwed up, but nor do some grownups.

Penguin 2002-09-06 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by Chruser
How about "Yes, even if there isn't enough evidence to prove the case, since that's how grownups are treated"?

A mistake is always a mistake, even kids know that. Some just don't realize how badly they have screwed up, but nor do some grownups.

yeap! ^^

NonGayMan 2002-09-06 02:29 PM

They were both charged with 2nd-degree murder about 10 minutes ago.

"CRØNîC-KîLLå" 2002-09-06 03:04 PM

heh how many years does 2nd degree get?

!King_Amazon! 2002-09-06 03:18 PM

25 to life I think.

Jamesadin 2002-09-06 04:53 PM

I think they should be put in jail for how long there life is so far, (ex he is 13 so 13 years of jail) then be put on parole

Strider Fury 2002-09-06 09:33 PM

bah, if 13 year olds think that they 'are' and 'responsible' enough to be having sex, then i think that they should be responsible for killing someone, too. in medevil times, 13 years old were consider to be adults and were allowed to start a family (since they dont have stuff like school to wait for). so if anything kids needs to be more responsible these days.

JohnnyTAE 2002-09-07 03:39 AM

The thing about prision it isn't really rehabilatating when people are sent to live with nothing but criminals they become hardened crimnals not more innocent....

Raziel 2002-09-07 04:08 AM

That depends ENIRELY on the mindset of the criminal. If this kid only killed his father because he felt there was no other choice, he might not spend so much as ten years in prison. If the kid killed his father because he wanted to see someone die, then I agree with you completely Johnny. The concept of "rehabilitation" requires the subject to be willing to be rehabilitated.

Demosthenes 2002-09-07 05:55 PM

i dont think he should be tried as an adult

Jamesadin 2002-09-07 07:33 PM

what is your reason?

Demosthenes 2002-09-09 03:00 PM

He is only 13...not nearly the age of an adult. I do not believe he understands the consequences that are placed upon him and the family of the victim. Yes there are some mature 13 yr olds but if he has killed someone he is not. Also I don't believe that you should try anyone that is a minor as an adult unless you give him the full rights as an adult, and that would not make sense because the country can not be run as a childs mind works. But back on the subject. He has barely reached adolesence. He needs to be punished for his actions but not as severly as an adult would be.

Strider Fury 2002-09-09 03:18 PM

fuck when i was 13 i exactly knew what was the difference between right or wrong so why cant you westerners? i blame it all on the careless and unresponsible parents that you ppl have, honestly. if anyone should be punish it should be his parents.

Sirpullido 2002-09-09 03:21 PM

Even u can distinguish between Right and wrong ur far away more temperamental & less mature...Or you see so many fights in an office as in school????And yes, since he isn't treated as an adult to other things souldn't be for that trial

Strider Fury 2002-09-09 03:27 PM

it has nothing to do with the age, but how and what you were taught while you were little. trust me, i came from hong kong and parents are as strict as hell back there and as a matter of fact still is today. if anything, the parents are at fault here. the parents raising the kid deserves just as much blame as the person who actually commited the murder.

Demosthenes 2002-09-09 03:44 PM

I have 2 disagree here. The parents are not really at fault. There are some kids, no matter how well they are raised, they will get into trouble. The only person to blame is the thirteen year old himself. I don't know the exact details for this case but I seriously doubt that the parents rewarded the kid for killing somebody. And if you're going to blame the parents because the kid used their gun to kill somebody the parents could've just had a gun for protection. No matter how much you hide something the kids will know where and how to get it.

Strider Fury 2002-09-09 03:52 PM

hmm. 25 to life is enough to straighten anyone out anyways, but what i'm saying here is that under some cases the parents are just as responsible for not raising their kid up porperly (espically when they know that he will get into trouble, he was 13) as the kid who shot someone intentionally.

JiN-RaiDeN 2002-09-25 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strider Fury
fuck when i was 13 i exactly knew what was the difference between right or wrong so why cant you westerners? i blame it all on the careless and unresponsible parents that you ppl have, honestly. if anyone should be punish it should be his parents.
Haha. Well, one of his parents was definitely punished.

"CRØNîC-KîLLå" 2002-09-25 02:21 PM

i duno about the u.s., but in canada their is no way for a person under 18 to be tried as an adult, by law, this is not possible, doesnt matter what the person did...

Jamesadin 2002-09-25 03:23 PM

But, I think our law should have some changes made to it.

Demosthenes 2002-09-25 06:05 PM

yes it doesn't seem to make sense...how are u gonna try some1 as an 18 yr old when they aren't 18...dont have the rights of an 18 yo and if ur under 18 what u say in a courtroom hear in the U.S. doesn't matter newayz.

Strider Fury 2002-09-25 07:56 PM

isnt canada thinking of sentencing the parents instead if the kid is underage? i think i heard it a lllooonggg time ago somewhere but since it didnt concerned...

Jamesadin 2002-09-25 08:04 PM

Im not so sure about that...

Strider Fury 2002-09-25 08:22 PM

me neither. but they should.

Jamesadin 2002-09-25 08:25 PM

Well... it kinda depends on if they know the difference from right and wrong. If they are 13, the parents arnt the ones who need to be punished.

JiN-RaiDeN 2002-09-29 03:59 AM

Either way he's getting punished for by letting some 30 year old dood put his dick in his ass. But that's just my opinion.


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