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Chruser 2011-10-24 09:07 AM

U.S. median wage drops to $26k
 
New report shows more workers falling behind average wage level

WASHINGTON — Fifty percent of U.S. workers earned less than $26,364 last year, reflecting a growing income gap between the nation’s rich and poor, the government reported Thursday.

There were fewer jobs, and overall pay was trending down — except for the nation’s wealthiest. The number of people making $1 million or more soared by over 18 percent from 2009, the Social Security Administration said, citing payroll data based on W-2 forms submitted by employers to the Internal Revenue Service.

Despite population growth, the number of Americans with jobs fell again last year, with total employment of just under 150.4 million — down from 150.9 million in 2009 and 155.4 million in 2008. In all, there were 5.2 million fewer jobs than in 2007, when the deep recession began, according to the IRS data.

The figures are just one more indication of the toll that the worst downturn since the Great Depression has taken on the U.S. economy. They were published as demonstrations rage on Wall Street and in cities across the nation protesting a widening income gulf between average wage earners and the nation’s wealthiest.

The unemployment rate remains stuck at 9.1 percent, with more than 14 million out of work and 11 million other discouraged people who have stopped looking for work or are stuck in part-time jobs. Since 1980, roughly 5 percent of annual national income has shifted from the middle calls to the nation’s richest households, according to the Census Bureau.

While the average U.S income last year was $39,959, the mean income — the figure where half earn more and half earn less — was much lower, $26,364. This disparity reflects the fact that “the distribution of workers by wage level is highly skewed,” according to Social Security.

Median compensation last year was just 66 percent of the average income, compared with nearly 72 percent in 1980.

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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...Y1L_story.html

Grav 2011-10-24 07:27 PM

Yay =/

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-24 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chruser (Post 694895)
[B]While the average U.S income last year was $39,959, the mean income — the figure where half earn more and half earn less — was much lower, $26,364.

Typo? I always thought average and mean were the same thing.

Skurai 2011-10-24 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 694897)
I always thought average and mean were the same thing.

They are.
I'm gonna assume it was an error, or this message was meant for the unintelligent.

Grav 2011-10-24 10:03 PM

Just an ignorant journalist. They meant the median.

Skurai 2011-10-25 01:49 PM

Either way.
It seems like even a Messiah couldn't help America at this point. Soon as I can, it's "Hello England"!

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-25 06:37 PM

lol if you think England is any better off than our country you are delusional. They are even worse.

KagomJack 2011-10-25 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 694916)
lol if you think England is any better off than our country you are delusional. They are even worse.

QFMFT

It's just a sign that the economy is only going to dip down more and more. All we can do is brace ourselves and either try to initiate change or let ourselves go broke. I'm voting for change.

Skurai 2011-10-25 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 694916)
lol if you think England is any better off than our country you are delusional. They are even worse.

Then where do you suggest I go?

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-25 09:46 PM

How about Mexico?

Skurai 2011-10-26 07:18 AM

Naw.
I'm thinking Brazil, since they have that giant Jesus statue, Christ the Redeemer.
Or Italy. Because pasta.
Or France, because Joan.


Jesus, pasta, Joan.
Yeah, I guess I just put pasta in the "holy" category...

Lenny 2011-10-26 07:40 AM

Yay highest unemployment level for nearly twenty years!

KagomJack 2011-10-26 04:31 PM

Italy's broke and needs bailouts, France is...well...it's France. Japan is xenophobic and tends to make fun of Otakus such as yourself.

Skurai 2011-10-26 07:59 PM

When did I say I was going to Japan?

And what's wrong with France!?

KagomJack 2011-10-27 07:20 PM

I'll admit I misread your post. Just look up France and riots and protests on the news and get back to me.

Lenny 2011-10-27 07:43 PM

France is full of French.

Skurai 2011-10-28 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KagomJack (Post 694936)
I'll admit I misread your post. Just look up France and riots and protests on the news and get back to me.

So it's cool there?

Willkillforfood 2011-10-30 08:58 AM

They talk about these "job creators", and how great it is that the wealthy have allll of this capital to invest to create jobs for us. We need money in the hands of those with a higher marginal propensity to consume, not invest. There's as many customers any more because they're getting raped by the overlords.

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-30 10:39 AM

http://trendsupdates.com/wp-content/...eaganomics.jpg

Skurai 2011-10-30 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 694968)

Sounded great in theory, but in practice it has turned out terrible. Like racism. Racist jokes are funny, racism is not.

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-30 12:12 PM

It should have been obvious from the start that the wealth wouldn't trickle down. We live in a consumer culture. The wealth travels the other way.

Skurai 2011-10-31 07:05 AM

I don't see why we don't just, like, "uber tex" them. Take away half (or more) of their money (because most of them don't even use that much) and either use it for government work or stimulus boosts. There's more of us than there is them. In fact, I think the best way to "rebel" would be to attack the (greedy) rich folk, not the government.

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-31 01:52 PM

The greedy rich folk pay off the government, Skurai.

Skurai 2011-10-31 02:36 PM

So why don't we get politicians who AREN'T corrupted? It's it determined by OUR votes?

In fact, why don't we BECOME politicians??

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-31 02:55 PM

Because you have to have money to get into office and you won't stay there long unless you bend to your corporate masters.

Skurai 2011-10-31 04:19 PM

So just kill all the rich people and THEN become politicians.

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-31 04:37 PM

And how do you propose we kill all of the rich people? They have money, and power. They have the police and SWAT to protect them. Perhaps even the military.

WetWired 2011-10-31 09:27 PM

Briefcase nukes? "For the greater good"?

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-31 10:08 PM

Destroying the Bohemian Grove during an Encampment would probably be a good approach, but it would be difficult/impossible to do it by land. If one could figure out how to do it, that should destroy a very large portion of the elite.

Skurai 2011-10-31 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon! (Post 694991)
Destroying the Bohemian Grove during an Encampment would probably be a good approach, but it would be difficult/impossible to do it by land. If one could figure out how to do it, that should destroy a very large portion of the elite.

A simple, but long-term method would be getting someone amongst us to actually gain that kind of power/money, while secretly remaining "one of us".

!King_Amazon! 2011-10-31 10:32 PM

It just doesn't work that way. Once you become one of them, you are no longer one of us.

jamer123 2011-11-01 06:40 PM

you could have an evil genius in your mists

KagomJack 2011-11-01 08:24 PM

Good. We could use one.

Skurai 2011-11-02 07:44 PM

But where do we get one?

KagomJack 2011-11-02 10:42 PM

K_A can fill that pretty well. I'm a pretty damn good orator, so I could be his mouthpiece.

Skurai 2011-11-03 03:04 PM

So K_A is the one directing everything, while you do all the oral.
What else do we need?

KagomJack 2011-11-03 09:34 PM

A shit ton of money to back our endeavors.

Skurai 2011-11-04 07:11 AM

*sigh*....
How much?

KagomJack 2011-11-04 10:32 PM

More than you probably have in your little piggy bank, homobot.

Skurai 2011-11-05 05:00 PM

I have $15,000, if that helps... I know it's not anything in reality, but it's a start.


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