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Lenny 2008-02-29 06:28 AM
GLG's Guide to Bisexuality
 
Upon request, a new thread has been made to deal with the growing number of posts that discuss bisexuality, and any sexuality in general:

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Originally Posted by GLG
We should ... make a new thread about Bisexuality, or Sexuality in general.
To begin, let's have a look at the current viewpoints of other members.

First of all, a Mr. D3V, with his straight to the point:

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Originally Posted by Mr. D3V
There is NO SUCH THING AS BISEXUAL

Men like Women is straight.

Men like Men and Women is still gay.
Damning stuff, don't you think? It was followed by a much more in-depth explanation, shedding light on Mr. D3V's hidden life as a Professor:

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Originally Posted by Prof. D3V
Bisexual means that you also like the same gender, Correct? Bisexual means that you are willing to go away from what your body and mind were created for, evolved into to go against the grain for a same sex relationship. Which would in turn make you gay. In my reasoning I feel that if you are willing to go gay then you are obviously gay, and Bisexual shouldn't even be a used term. Bisexual obviously means that you like both, but I don't feel that the concious ever truly is that, maybe on a small, very small occasion this would hold true.

But look at KJ, our own member claimed he was BI at first, and then eventually threw that completely out the window and went straight into Richard Simmon's LPGA tournament.

Many may disagree with this little theory, but I do feel that if you are willing to call yourself bisexual, then you don't like both, but that of the same sex. Because if you liked what you are instinctively designed to be attracted to, then you wouldn't be Bisexual to begin with. That's why I feel that it's stupid.
Some money was needlessly tossed into that hat with this statement from our very own acrobatic mammal:

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Originally Posted by Jumping Hamster
You know, every species (mostly mammals) show homosexuality. And there are alot of them that have sex with same sex and opposite sex in the same day. It is very common, and very natural.

thats just my 2 cents.
A brief statement by KagomJack was the last viewpoint to be made known, and from this, the discussion will continue.

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Originally Posted by Jack, Kagom
Bisexuality is real. But you knew that.
Discuss.

Thanatos 2008-02-29 06:50 AM
lol you're good for a laugh every now and then. Nice thread.

My viewpoints:

Why are we suddenly discussing this? Gay stuff is icky.

Goodlookinguy 2008-02-29 07:13 AM
Oh! It's my guide is it?

KagomJack 2008-02-29 11:17 AM
Bisexuality is something that DOES very much exist. A lot of guys I know are bisexual and like getting with either a guy or a girl or both on occasion.

Willkillforfood 2008-02-29 01:10 PM
Bisexuality is gay.

KagomJack 2008-02-29 02:44 PM
No, bisexuality is bisexuality. Gay is gay. Straight is straight.

Fun Fact: I'm actually not a fan of bisexuals. :x

talentedhamster 2008-02-29 03:11 PM
why not? people are who they are, and i have alot of respect for bisexuals to say that they can love someone for who they are and it doesnt matter if they are male or female because something like that doesn't make a difference. bisexuals are more for love then sex, they dont care about the parts just the people.

just because you don't understand it doesn't make it stupid or nonexistant. so stop being so damn ignorant and learn to accept that yea, you may find it wierd but its out there, and you are going to have to deal with it.

Asamin 2008-02-29 03:25 PM
If someone whats to make love to a girl but then to a guy it is ok with me. as long as it is guy to girl then guy to someone other then me. Or Girl to me and girl to girl with me in the corner watching.

Atnas 2008-02-29 04:38 PM
Haha.

Calling bisexuals gay is like calling straights homosexuals. Or a pineapple a peach.

Demosthenes 2008-02-29 04:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by talentedhamster
bisexuals are more for love then sex
A recent study showed that bisexual females have an increased sex drive, actually. To quote:

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... for most women, high sex drive is associated with increased sexual attraction to both men and women. For men, however, high sex drive is associated with increased sexual attraction to only one sex or the other, depending on the individual's sexual orientation. These results suggest that the correlates of sex drive and the organization of sexual orientation are different for women and men.
Source:
Richard A. Lippa (2006)
Is High Sex Drive Associated With Increased Sexual Attraction to Both Sexes?. It Depends on Whether You Are Male or Female. Psychological Science 17 (1), 46-52.

KagomJack 2008-02-29 04:51 PM
It's a personal thing. Bisexual guys I've dated were more obsessed with getting their cocks warmed than with anything else. It actually fucked up one of my relationships something bad.

!King_Amazon! 2008-02-29 06:13 PM
Not only do I believe bisexuality is real, but I believe everyone is bisexual to some degree. I would say I'm slightly bisexual, since I can look at two guys and tell you which one is hotter.

Nature shows bisexuality to be almost the norm, but society probably forces MOST people to pick one side or the other.

I don't claim to be bisexual, I claim to be straight, but I think "straight" and "gay" are just the two ends of the bisexuality spectrum.

talentedhamster 2008-02-29 06:15 PM
nevermind. i quit. my ideas are mine, and yours are yours i'm not going to try to change that, but i defffff agree with KA.

!King_Amazon! 2008-02-29 06:21 PM
Oh, and just because I know a lot of people are gonna say "ewwww, I'm not bisexual, I don't find guys/girls attractive at all", know that by saying that, you're just proving that society has forced you to the side you're on. I can almost guarantee you, if we weren't raised to be "straight", almost everyone would have bisexual tendencies. We're socialized to be "straight", however.

KagomJack 2008-02-29 07:04 PM
I do hope you realize that I don't blindly hate bisexual people. As friends, they're good, I just can't handle a bisexual lover for fear of being hurt again like in the past.

Goodlookinguy 2008-03-01 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Oh, and just because I know a lot of people are gonna say "ewwww, I'm not bisexual, I don't find guys/girls attractive at all", know that by saying that, you're just proving that society has forced you to the side you're on. I can almost guarantee you, if we weren't raised to be "straight", almost everyone would have bisexual tendencies. We're socialized to be "straight", however.
You make a really good fight there. Society does push for people to be straight. The republican party for instanse, tries to prevent such things as marrage between two who are the same sex. To tell people that you are only normal if you are with the opposite sex.

Demosthenes 2008-03-01 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Oh, and just because I know a lot of people are gonna say "ewwww, I'm not bisexual, I don't find guys/girls attractive at all", know that by saying that, you're just proving that society has forced you to the side you're on. I can almost guarantee you, if we weren't raised to be "straight", almost everyone would have bisexual tendencies. We're socialized to be "straight", however.
It is possible for someone to not have any sexual attraction to a certain gender/race/type of people but still objectively say which is "hotter," just like it is possible to say which scenic view is more beautiful. Introspectively, I can honestly say that I don't feel any sexual attraction to men. You may be completely right. It may be something that is programmed into me by society. But you may also be completely wrong. My observations from introspection would suggest you are wrong, however. These are something I can not prove, though.

Asamin 2008-03-01 02:16 PM
I agree that society is forcing us to be "straight". What is so wrong about two men (or woman) loving each other? If you were to walk around my school you would hear many a girl telling another that they love them or they think they look really hot today. There is nothing wrong with it.

talentedhamster 2008-03-02 09:02 AM
exactly, knowing that someone is attractive doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality.

though, back to society, it has made it awkward if a guy was to be like "hey joe, does my butt look hot in these pants?". that means theres something "up" with that guy, and thats wierd. yet me and my friends are in the locker room with no pants or shirts on at all and we're like "omg your butt got alot bigger" and thats no problem. complete double standard

Goodlookinguy 2008-03-02 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by talentedhamster
exactly, knowing that someone is attractive doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality.

though, back to society, it has made it awkward if a guy was to be like "hey joe, does my butt look hot in these pants?". that means theres something "up" with that guy, and thats wierd. yet me and my friends are in the locker room with no pants or shirts on at all and we're like "omg your butt got alot bigger" and thats no problem. complete double standard
That is awkwardly true.

!King_Amazon! 2008-03-02 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by talentedhamster
exactly, knowing that someone is attractive doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality.

though, back to society, it has made it awkward if a guy was to be like "hey joe, does my butt look hot in these pants?". that means theres something "up" with that guy, and thats wierd. yet me and my friends are in the locker room with no pants or shirts on at all and we're like "omg your butt got alot bigger" and thats no problem. complete double standard
Once again, that's just because of how we're socialized as children. In our society, lesbians are more accepted than gay men.

Also, for instance, women go to the bathroom in packs, almost always. Guys never do that, and if they did, they would be gay. Also, women talk to each other in the bathroom, but men do not. If you even utter a word in the men's bathroom while anyone in the bathroom is doing their business, that makes you gay.

Atnas 2008-03-02 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
If you even utter a word in the men's bathroom while anyone in the bathroom is doing their business, that makes you gay.
They do it all the time on TV.

!King_Amazon! 2008-03-02 01:32 PM
They obviously haven't read Maddox's Alphabet of Manliness.

Willkillforfood 2008-03-02 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Atnas
They do it all the time on TV.
Television is a bastion of gayness.

Thanatos 2008-03-04 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Also, women talk to each other in the bathroom, but men do not. If you even utter a word in the men's bathroom while anyone in the bathroom is doing their business, that makes you gay.
Had some random guy try to spark a conversation with me while I was pissing last week. WHO THE FUCK DOES THIS? Please do not talk to me while I am holding my penis in mid-flow.

I think all I said was "yeah", washed my hands, and left immediately.

Vault Dweller 2008-03-04 11:49 AM
I hate people who have no concept of urinal etiquitte.

Atnas 2008-03-07 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vault Dweller
I hate people who have no concept of urinal etiquitte.
DAMN THEM.

No, really, it's just awkward. You just don't talk to someone while they're going to the bathroom.

talentedhamster 2008-03-07 06:58 PM
I talk to my friends all the time when im going to the bathroom.

Atnas 2008-03-07 07:30 PM
I only did it once when I was in the bathroom with a close friend. Except then you run the risk of making a joke... And you DO NOT want to laugh while pissing. :(

I can still remember it:

"Voltron."

"HAHA OH SHIT THE WALL HAHA"

!King_Amazon! 2008-03-07 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by talentedhamster
I talk to my friends all the time when im going to the bathroom.
Girls are different.

talentedhamster 2008-03-08 10:20 AM
i guess.

btw it is SO not fair. guys locker rooms are SO MUCH bigger than girls >=(

Atnas 2008-03-08 10:45 AM
Probably because to have a small men's locker room, the men inside would need to be closer and there's a bigger discrimination against gays than there is for lesbians in our society.

talentedhamster 2008-03-08 02:27 PM
heh, they guys locker room is alot bigger, but the girls locker room has more showers

Asamin 2008-03-09 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodlookinguy
That is awkwardly true.
Why do we consider it weird for any boy or girl to see another naked outside of the locker room. But inside it is fine? If two boys hug, we say they are gay. Yet, when two girls hug, they are best friends. Why is this.

talentedhamster 2008-03-09 04:58 PM
cause guys have to be MANLY MEN!!!! society makes it out to be you HAVE to be this way. and exactly this way or your gay. and its sooooo hprrible and scary having someone think your gay, even if you know your not. cause i mean, gays are DANGEROUS! i dont know what they did, but to get their marriage rights taken away, damn it must have been something bad!

Demosthenes 2008-03-09 06:23 PM
+ points

Grav 2008-03-09 06:26 PM
+ rep for you.

talentedhamster 2008-03-09 06:39 PM
thank you. i have good points sometimes

Atnas 2008-03-09 07:05 PM
I know I'm not a prime example but I hug guys all the time.

You should stay after school more often - that's usually when I get to see the guys I know but don't love but still hug.

Grav 2008-03-09 07:09 PM
Uh... thanks for sharing.


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