Bethesda and Console Wars
 

Bethesda suxorz they are all putting up this shit for fallout 3 and not actually making the game those assholes how dare they mock me!

Lol jk, but seriously does anyone know about their most recent works cause I can't seem to find out if they are active on F3 or not and I will die if I can't get my hands on it.

Bethesda roxorz!!! They made Morrowind...the best pc game of all time!!

Their only in-development games at the moment are Rogue Warrior, and Oblivion for the PS3.

Oblivion is also for the pc...but my pc is now considered crap and needs upgrading >.<

I know Oblivion is on the PC... it was originally a PC game. But Bethesda thought it would be a good idea to port it to the 360 and PS3.

So far they've released it on the 360, and are now putting the finishing touches on the PS3 version.

They didn't "port" it to the 360. The game was obviously designed with it in mind from the get go.

Which is why oblivion has so many short commings.

And which is also why only the PC version is any good - because of community made mods that improve the game.

Seriously, by summer this year, oblivion will be a totally different game because of the community mods... -if modders don't give up on the game that is.

So why was it not released on the 360 first of all?

Money Lenny...money...the 360 is a pretty good market to throw games into especially since they put Morrowind on the Xbox they fgure if they put Oblivion on the 360 itll make alot of sales.

And yes praise modders because there are sooo many in development i think there were over 300 mods just for morrowind not including the Expansions.

One that caught my eyes was a way to make Oblivion look futuristic tho...its a total conversion mod and it looks pretty cool since it keeps the system and races.

For RPGs I'd say the PS market is the better of the two.

Maybe MS have made a deal with Bethesda or something to actually have it on the 360 - they need RPGs, especially if they want to do well in Japan.

Heck, when Blue Dragon came out 360 sales tripled... but it was still outsold by the Wii and the PS3. The Japanese don't seem to like the 360, methinks.

The Japanese are selfish when it comes to economics. They purposefully sell they're products for cheaper than others so people will buy theirs. When competitors are dead, they raise the price to normal and laugh evily.

But I sill luv them

IIRC, that's illegal in the US. I remember hearing something about WalMart having to take special measures to avoid prosecution on that...

It's illegal over here, too.

Yes but with the way the Amercan Govt. kisses ass to people they blew up in the past you know they can get away with it if they really tried...

MS is most popular in the US but then again I hear that Nintendo makes the most sales because they don't release shit at a ridiculous price like the PS3 or 360.

At the moment the 360 has the most market share, with about 10.4 million consoles sold, simply because it's been out for a year.

Nintendo comes in second with something like 4-5 million consoles sold - a cheap and innovative console for all the family is going to sell pretty well until the novelty wears off.

The PS3 has sold Just under 1.5 million (490,000 in Japan, just over a million in America). There are still Blu-Ray Diode, though they're starting to become easier to manufacture, and the fact that it's $600 puts a lot of people off.

In America the 360 is on top, then the Wii, then the PS3.

In Japan it's a different story - the Wii has bombed it's way along, witht he PS3 coming in second with about 490,000 consoles, and the 360 with a pathetic 200,000.

It really looks as if the Japanese hate MS.

When the PS3 finally launches in Europe and PAL regions, expect to see sales rocket. We're the single biggest territory for gaming, and Sony need to pull out the stops to make us feel better about finally getting the PS3. If they make a complete hash of the launch in Europe, then they're screwed for the next few years.

You know why the 360 is so popular in america? It's cause most of the games are football and alot of the gangsta blacks want their foozball.

Actually most of the black people at my college whose rooms I've seen have PS2's. I mostly see white guys with Xboxes. The dragoon elite type, basically.

I wonder why there's such a divide like that?

Maybe it has something to do with past loyalty? For instance I have a PC and because of this I never really invested in an Xbox until way after it came out, the reason being is that every game that came out for the Xbox at the time was already out on PC so i went and got a PS2 instead. My sister who had a tons of fun with the Nintendo and the games they release of course got the GBA and Gamecube.

Just speculation but I think people base their choice off of what they like game-wise rather than console wise.

I personally think it's a bit of both.

I prefer Sony consoles over the Xboxes (to me they look ugly)... and then there is the games factor - the PlayStations just have so many more games, including lots of RPGs, and I'm a sucker for a good RPG.

I got the cube, I thought it would be the best because of super smash bros...but it turns out that was about the only good game for the cube...although, mario sunshine was pretty good

Why someone just can't build a PSWii60 I don't know. All three consoles have good games, sadly.

Cause that might be too "monopolistic". And well, the 360 is really just a computer. I'd rather see a nintendo + sony console. Nintendo has the ideas and the skill to make top notch games as well as durable and strong hardware, but also tend to undershoot the graphics notch. Sony does not, and can probably design a more modular system that'd appeal to more consumers. Something like a snap-on pseudo PC. 250-300~ for the main box to do lots of things, and overtime you can buy upgrades to snap onto the box or board. Do it yourself.

But that prolly will never happen, atleast not from sony and nintendo.

Sony don't seem to have as much against Nintendo as they do against MS (has anyone been reading the slinging matches between the company execs?), so it's a lot more feasible than a Sony-Nintendo-MS collaboration, at least.

Haha that was a slightly funny read thank you for bringing that up Lenny...
Anyways Co. Execs aside I think it will happen, just not anytime soon...remember eventually everything will be a corporation owned by multiple rich people...eventually...must create...elixer of life...

Sony is too arrogant to do such a thing. Nintendo also knows that they don't need the help.

At the moment I couldn't care less if Sony used slave labour.

There's an unofficial official date for the European launch. And an unofficial official price. Add on to that the fact that at the beginning of next week they're making an official statement regarding price and release date, as well as the confirmed rumour that there will be no 20gb PS3s for the UK launch and, well, I'm one happy chappy. :)

Past loyalty is big concern. But I made a choice to pick the PS3 over the wII

Even tho my loyalty to nintendo runs deep into the orginal nintendo NES System. Only if nintendo made a computer based machine with all the orginal nes games on it. with a playable A - Z SELECTION FEATUREING ALL THE GAMES WIRELESS controllers. The NES gun the runing mat & the Nes glove among all other items of witch made the nes a brake through componet for modern gameing!

Wow... forgot about this thread did I. :p

Past loyalty... they're figures over 6 months old, but a few surveys done in the summer of last year found that out of PS2, Xbox and GC owners, approx. 60% of PS2 owners were going to buy the PS3, approx. 40% of Xbox owners were going to, or had bought a 360, and something like 20% of GC owners were thinking about buying the Wii.

Wait a minute... has the thread expiration been killed off or something? :confused:

EDIT: Ah! I see what's happened.This is the original Bethesda thread that has been retitled, and all our Oblivion discussion has split off into the aptly titled "Lenny is rabidly waiting for Oblivion PS3".

I bought an Xbox 360 back after the second launch sometime, I did it because I wanted some new games, ps2 games were lacking and I needed something, some good ol video games. I've had nintendo, super nintendo, sega, ps, ps2 and now 360. I was a Sony only guy, because they just always had the biggest range of games to choose from, I was an addict for devil may cry and metal gear solid (except the later ones, never really got into it, i guess i lost some patience) and lets not forget my all time favorite castlevania symphony of the night on ps1. But I think PS3 is prob a lot better of a choice over 360, not saying 360 is bad, I love my gears of war, I mean I basically bought 360 because of one game, Halo 3, I absolutely love the halo series.
But lets face it, far more and better games will come out on the ps3, the only thing that may help float MS for awhile is when they start to drop the price of 360, past sales of ps1 and xbox was the highest after they cut prices. And now more than ever since the prices are so jacked up I think MS will hit more sales once it lowers its prices, and I think they should do that sometime sooooon. Ya know what would be smart, someone should make a device that allow you to play Sony games on MS consoles and vice versa, would totally mess up the market but it would make consumers happy. Cuz then it would just be a matter of who made the best and cheapest console and who got it out there the fastest. But we I dont think we will be seeing that device ever, unless someone wants to go into a partnership with me :)

Ps. Hotdog, I love drizzt too

Well, it would have to be a PS3 hack to play XBox 360 games because

1. The PS3 blue-ray drive could read XBox 360 DVDs, but not vice-versa
2. The PS3 could pre-process the XBox 360 code in SPEs with little impact on the execution stream in the PPE.

Even so, the XBox 360's code runs on 3 PowerPC cores which run at the same speed as the PS3's PPE, so it probably wouldn't work well. On the other hand, XBox 360 would have a hard time keeping up with the massive parallel arithmetic that PS3 games can exploit.

There's also the fact that you can install Linux on the PS3, and surely an emulator could be written for Linux to play 360 games?

Although... just after the American launch there were some videos posted of Linux running XP in an emulator, so could you not theoretically play PC games on the PS3, too?