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Grav 2006-03-26 11:14 PM

Privatize Dragoon Elite forum
 
Make it so that it cannot be seen by normal members unless people are part of a certain forum group. Whether it is by subscription or set by a mod doesn't matter to me. I mostly agree with this below convo:


PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: I used to reply to just about every thread that would show up
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: excluding the odd RPGmaker forum post or something
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: I seriously think if they made dragoon elites invisible to people outside of the members of goons, people would post more outside of that forum
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: it would stimulate activity outside of that forum
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: rather than just making people not post like it is now
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: I really have no urge to post anything when I check new posts now, but if I checked new posts and didn't see many posts I'd probably start making new threads or something
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: eventually activity would be on the rise
PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: it's kinda like their forum is sucking the life out of the rest of the forum I guess

Demosthenes 2006-03-26 11:38 PM

Normally I would agree, but that's where the activity is at now days, and I would just be depressed if I hit new posts without the dragoons.

Grav 2006-03-27 05:25 AM

It's not really activity. It's a bunch of ADHD sheep who get really antsy whenever a wolf enters their section.

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-27 05:53 AM

95% of the posts in that forum consist of one line.

100% of the posts in that forum are not worth reading.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 07:05 AM

Hey, it's never stopped you in the past from getting yourself blocked from viewing posts in Hosted Forums. It's happened to basically every other Forum that was annoying in the past.

Dragoon's are sustaining half the activity at Zelaron as of late, and there is still only 20 new threads a day anyway.. It's not like we make 20 new threads a day, we simply have a lot of spam, but it's all in a few different threads, so what's the problem?

Do you think that appeasing one person's opinion will be for the better of the community? If so, make the Dragoon's a private forum, I really don't care, I just don't see the point.

gruesomeBODY 2006-03-27 08:06 AM

Yea, i cant believe that us posting in our own section is causing so much drama. You dont have to read it. Most of you complain about it but thats because Zelaron is becoming less and less active. Us dragoons keep it going, for a small part, and bring in new members daily. In teh last week, ive brought in 4 new members. But if it pleases everyone, then weill start posting more in our private section. But remember that the activity level of Z will go way down without us.

Thanatos 2006-03-27 08:12 AM

You obviously missed the point.

The point to this is to make the DE forum private so when we click "New Posts" we don't see 16-17 DE threads. They believe that without this, people will be more inclined to post in other forums. You guys are still more than welcome to post outside of your forums, but wouldn't you like it privatized? This way, the only people that can post in there are yourselves and you won't get the occasional Grav/KA flame that they throw in there sometimes.

It's a win/win situation.

Sum Yung Guy 2006-03-27 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanatos
You obviously missed the point.

The point to this is to make the DE forum private so when we click "New Posts" we don't see 16-17 DE threads.

Idea: New user group, similar to the no post count group. Except this usergroup will make Dragoon Elite disapear for yourself.

If that doesnt work, well stop being lazy. Jeeze! The time it takes to scroll past the DE Forum post when you click "New Post" is measured in nano seconds.

This is mainly an issue with GravitonSurge because we delete stupid post made by him in the Dragoon Elite section.

Sum Yung Guy 2006-03-27 09:12 AM

We fixed the Dragoon Elite problem internally. No need to do anything now.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanatos
You obviously missed the point.

The point to this is to make the DE forum private so when we click "New Posts" we don't see 16-17 DE threads. They believe that without this, people will be more inclined to post in other forums. You guys are still more than welcome to post outside of your forums, but wouldn't you like it privatized? This way, the only people that can post in there are yourselves and you won't get the occasional Grav/KA flame that they throw in there sometimes.

It's a win/win situation.

I think you're missing the point too. Half of my friends on Live have come from networking here at Zelaron. If we were to make it a private forum, then no members, new members, etc. would know we exist. The purpose of our Forum isn't to only have the people we want posting there, but to expand it and give other members of Zelaron a chance to join in on our fun.

Also, we have for the most part fixed the problem you are thinking about. We usually have about 6-7 threads active in our forums, so it's not that big of a deal anyway. You guys are exaggerating the whole issue.

I mean, I hate all posts that aren't Dragoon, Gen Convo, Flame Forum, Forum Discussion, Gen Gaming, and maybe 2 other Forums. Does that mean I want to privatize the rest of the Forum? No? It means I simply don't read the topics in those other Forums. It's no worse than the Chat Forum. You guys are getting too caught up in seeing "Dragoon Elites" too much, and not realizing that it is no different than seeing "Computer Graphics" or any other Forum you don't like reading and just skipping over the message.

Lenny 2006-03-27 10:10 AM

I don't see the point in privatising the Dragoon Forum.

Some of us post meaningful posts in there...and if you don't want to see them, then you can do as SYG says and just scroll. Or do as I do and check each forum with the red arrow. I've never once used the New Posts button. I don't see the point. It's pretty clear whether there are new posts in a forum or not.

Thanatos 2006-03-27 10:20 AM

Meh. I really don't care. I was just trying to see things from Grav's point of view.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 12:33 PM

Oh, I totally understand what he is talking about, but I also know that just because one person started a bitching contest over something they don't like, doesn't mean that 8 or so active members from the Dragoon's should be ostracized from the rest of Zelaron.

I do agree with some points though, which is why we've already discussed it with the rest of the Dragoon's and we have remedied the situation. It shouldn't be an issue anymore. Yes, us Dragoon's work fast, and efficient! ;)

Willkillforfood 2006-03-27 12:33 PM

It's really interesting when people are so lazy that they wont go through the forums individually to find something they want to post on. Could you forget privatizing the Dragoon Elite forums and remove that tool from Zelaron? perhaps people will find a thread that hasn't been posted on that day and you know, find something that interests them that is a couple days old x_X.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 12:36 PM

C'mon now... That just makes too much sense! It's almost illogical to process at Zelaron!

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-27 12:55 PM

This isn't me just bitching because I don't like the Dragoon Elites. It's true, I don't like them, and if that were my only reason behind the idea I'd say just remove them all together. My reasoning behind the idea is the fact that it's not so simple as just scrolling over the Dragoon Elites posts. They're almost all that we see. I greatly dislike posting in the Dragoon Elites forum, it's nothing but a big spamfest. Maybe you remember back in the day when I was a big spammer, I have no problem with spam at all. The problem is that the entire forum is a big ball of spam. The forum itself has very little useful content, at least not to someone that isn't one of the dragoon elites. I understand that it's just a bunch of people that like playing with each other and stuff like that, but you're literally sucking the life out of the forum. That's why I think it would be better for you guys to have an invisible forum for yourself. I'm not necessarily saying that you guys should be cut off from the rest of the forum, it's not like you wouldn't still be able to post in the rest of the forums. I want to stimulate activity OUTSIDE of the dragoon elites forum.

Willkillforfood 2006-03-27 12:58 PM

Tell you what. It may actually stimulate activity if people have to look at each individual forum for threads instead of pressing a button that gives them the latest threads. That way you can see some that are a little older that may interest you ;).

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-27 01:44 PM

Do you not know how the view new posts works? You view new posts, post in whatever you feel like posting in, then you leave. Then when you come back, you view new posts, and you can see everything that you've missed while you were gone.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 01:55 PM

It just doesn't make sense to me how it is sucking the life out of the rest of the Forums? I could see if there was about 30+ active threads a day then it could be crummy looking at a page full of Dragoon posts, but fact is, we only have like 7 or so threads active at any given time. Threads usually start with decent content, then after some time, we recollect on a game that was effected by what we're talking about, then suddenly we are talking shit and busting each other's chops because it's fun.

The Chat Forum is a spam box, the General Conversation talks about anything, and the Dragoon Elite is for members of our Halo clan talking about gaming experiences, strategies, and just communicating in general about our lives and seeing when we are available to play. We're harmless really. Like I said before, if you really think it will help YOU personally to post more if we weren't here, then get us blocked! You've done it before, and so have I.

gruesomeBODY 2006-03-27 02:05 PM

Well we already have an invisible section where we dont spam K_A. We have had for nearly 4 months now. You guys just dont see it. We goof around and do other things outside of it so all of you can get in and maybe one day play with us. But i guess you just dont want to see us spam anymore so us mods and members have come up with a solution and will be out of your hair asap

Lenny 2006-03-27 02:11 PM

You're not all stopping using the bit that we all see are you?

That'll be a bit sad.

There only seem to be 2 or 3 people who have publicly said they don't like the Dragoons. The rest of don't seem to mind...or if we do, we keep it to ourselves.

It can sometimes be fun to read through a couple of the threads to see what madness is being inflicted upon you all.

Demosthenes 2006-03-27 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titusfied
I think you're missing the point too. Half of my friends on Live have come from networking here at Zelaron. If we were to make it a private forum, then no members, new members, etc. would know we exist. The purpose of our Forum isn't to only have the people we want posting there, but to expand it and give other members of Zelaron a chance to join in on our fun.

Also, we have for the most part fixed the problem you are thinking about. We usually have about 6-7 threads active in our forums, so it's not that big of a deal anyway. You guys are exaggerating the whole issue.

I mean, I hate all posts that aren't Dragoon, Gen Convo, Flame Forum, Forum Discussion, Gen Gaming, and maybe 2 other Forums. Does that mean I want to privatize the rest of the Forum? No? It means I simply don't read the topics in those other Forums. It's no worse than the Chat Forum. You guys are getting too caught up in seeing "Dragoon Elites" too much, and not realizing that it is no different than seeing "Computer Graphics" or any other Forum you don't like reading and just skipping over the message.

Tits makes a pretty convincing argument . . .

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-27 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gruesomeBODY
But i guess you just dont want to see us spam anymore so us mods and members have come up with a solution and will be out of your hair asap

Could it be true? If so I'm satisfied.

Titusfied 2006-03-27 02:58 PM

Obviously you haven't read this thread, because it's already done Sherlock.

Sovereign 2006-03-27 05:39 PM

I had my permission to view that forum taken away a while ago, and I thank whoever did that for me.

Maybe make it so that there is an option in your CP to turn HOSTED FORUM VIEWING off.

I guess I cant say anything on this matter since I see none of it.

WetWired 2006-03-27 06:34 PM

There's a link next to the new posts link that says [Subscribed Forums]. So subscribe to the catagories besides hosted and use that link. Note that you may need to switch styles in order to subscribe to catagories; I know Synthesis supports it.

Willkillforfood 2006-03-27 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Do you not know how the view new posts works? You view new posts, post in whatever you feel like posting in, then you leave. Then when you come back, you view new posts, and you can see everything that you've missed while you were gone.

There's not much to understand. It's a feature for busy people who lack a minute or two to look through different forums with new posts listed. So crucial for the zelaron member on the go! It's a lazy feature. Read my posts before you question my understanding of something :P. You just skimmed it, you busy person.

Thanatos 2006-03-28 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willkillforfood
There's not much to understand. It's a feature for busy people who lack a minute or two to look through different forums with new posts listed. So crucial for the zelaron member on the go! It's a lazy feature. Read my posts before you question my understanding of something :P. You just skimmed it, you busy person.

Is there something wrong with that? Oh teh noez! Who would have thought there is something else out there besides Zelaron? It can't be true...!

Titusfied 2006-03-28 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WetWired
There's a link next to the new posts link that says [Subscribed Forums]. So subscribe to the catagories besides hosted and use that link. Note that you may need to switch styles in order to subscribe to catagories; I know Synthesis supports it.

Yeah, well I never really understood the Subscribed Forums option.. It would be much better if you could simply check a box next to each individual Forum, have it save your settings, then when you click New Posts, it will only show new posts from the Forums that have a check in the box.

Now that would be an option that is not only easy to use, but it would appease everyone's posting style.

Medieval Bob 2006-03-28 07:45 AM

While I'm not really sure of my stance on the situation, I'll try to provide some clarity.

The Subscribed Forums button will filter out particular forums for members. That doesn't satisfy the suggestion that was provided here. The thought, as I understand, is that people (all people, not just those who don't like the Dragoon threads) will post more threads if there looks to be less activity.

The suggested problem is that, while there is activity in the Dragoon section, most people don't want to post there, because it seems to be a 'private' group of people talking about things that only pertain to themselves. However, since the New Posts button provides ~20 threads, the non-Dragoon isn't going to feel obligated to start a new thread or post in one that isn't currently active.

Telling everyone to filter out the Dragoon forum isn't going to work because a majority of the people that this is targetted at are either too new to know or too inactive to see this suggestion.

To actually implement it, the forum would have to be made private. It could even be just semi-private. There could be a user group, joinable by anyone, that makes it viewable. That would limit visibility to only those who want to see it.

Now that the point is more clear, and I think that it may be a valid one, I will say that I don't think inactivity (even if it's just simulated) promotes activity. I don't believe that, just because there are no new posts, people will be motivated to start some activity.

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-28 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
I don't believe that, just because there are no new posts, people will be motivated to start some activity.

It has happened in the past.

Titusfied 2006-03-28 09:20 AM

Well, we have recently turned into that "Semi-Private Forum" you suggested above. We have a Private Forum that we made to keep all Strategies and serious discussion in, but we recently decided that we are going to switch that up in a few days. As of right now, we are only posting in the Private Forum, but next week, we are going to keep serious threads in the Public Forum, and all spammity spam threads that mostly exist right now, in the Private Forum. That way, we can have our fun, but we can also co-exist with the rest of Zelaron and enable members to actively see good threads that have actual Halo gaming strats, suggestions, etc.

I think that should appease the masses.

!King_Amazon! 2006-03-28 11:28 AM

That sounds pretty good to me.

Lenny 2006-03-28 12:12 PM

But it's the Spammity Spam threads that makes the Dragoon Forum enjoyable to read every now and then.

Titusfied 2006-03-28 12:26 PM

You can get access to our Private Forum if you wish. Just click on the sticky in the Dragoon Elite Forum.

Kaneda 2006-04-02 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny
But it's the Spammity Spam threads that makes the Dragoon Forum enjoyable to read every now and then.

See what pisses me off about this is, all of those spammity threads can go into our Gen Convo. or Chat. Why is it simply Dragoon conversation if one of them is going to Miami for the weekend or w/e. If I saw a thread title that said Gruesome gets Fucked in the chat forum I would atleast read it, and probably post in it but instead they keep all they're posts pretty strictly in they're section and quite frankly I don't like reading anything in that section because it's mainly the same 4 or 5 fucktards with the exception of JR and sometimes Gruesome.

Willkillforfood 2006-04-02 09:51 PM

Don't really see your grievance then :p. Tell more people to post on the dragoons forum? :o

gruesomeBODY 2006-04-02 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaneda
See what pisses me off about this is, all of those spammity threads can go into our Gen Convo. or Chat. Why is it simply Dragoon conversation if one of them is going to Miami for the weekend or w/e. If I saw a thread title that said Gruesome gets Fucked in the chat forum I would atleast read it, and probably post in it but instead they keep all they're posts pretty strictly in they're section and quite frankly I don't like reading anything in that section because it's mainly the same 4 or 5 fucktards with the exception of JR and sometimes Gruesome.

Well wehn i get fucked, ill let you know first kaneda. and thanks for not calling me a fucktard the entire time lol

sue_13 2006-04-03 12:30 AM

... and thanks for calling me a fucktard.

Willkillforfood 2006-04-03 06:52 PM

Leave the man alone, his better half is expecting triplets! ;)


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