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Kaneda 2005-06-21 10:06 AM

College
 
Never having gone to college, or even thought about it I know nothing about how degrees work, and th progressive stages. Any info?
I've been thinking about going to nursing school at UT here in Austin and I'm not sure if to be a nurse you have to actually go to college and do that whole thing or if you just go to nursing school. Searchs are coming up blank. Any idea?
Ty
Edit: 
well i found a nurse forum, ha, and it seems you do have to go to college and get a bachelors(?) before you can do the stuff to become a registered nurse. hmmmmm college..... :confused:

Thanatos 2005-06-21 10:34 AM

Yeah, you have to go the basic 4 years. College doesn't seem that bad anyway. It's a once in a lifetime experience; just imagine all the booze, chicks, and parties. GL AND HF!

Lenny 2005-06-21 10:45 AM

A bachelors degree is your basic degree.

I guess that for nursing you'll need to do a Bachelors Science - you need to do mostly science related subjects.

They are also called the 4 year degrees and are needed for most things.

Above a bachelors is a Masters degree and above that the PhD.

Titusfied 2005-06-21 06:31 PM

I don't think nurses go for a PhD, since that would make them a doctorate. I don't know if they go for a Science degree, or something more specific either though. There are 2 and 1 year nursing schools, but it is recommended that you go to a 4 year first, then take a 1 year for a different type of learning experience.

Mantralord 2005-06-21 06:38 PM

Geez, is there anything in life that doesn't require a grotesque amount of waiting? I'm starting 4 year college soon for Software Engineering, and no doubt I could learn the exact same job-specific shit I would at a vocational school for a year. Of course, somehow knowing a bunch more shit you don't care about makes you a better person.

God I hate people.

Titusfied 2005-06-21 06:54 PM

It's so true. I went to school for 5 years, received my Bachelors and Masters of Science in Electrical Engineering, and the job I have now is something my brother has been doing for 7 years, and he only went to college for 1 year before failing out. Ironic, huh?

HandOfHeaven 2005-06-21 09:23 PM

The only thing I'm not looking forward to in college is having to pay for it. The way I look at it, it's high school with more freedom, closer living quarters, more parties, but a little more studying. I can't wait, but it'll take an arm and a leg to pay for.

JRwakebord 2005-06-21 11:21 PM

College = heaven on earth. more booze, girls, and drugs than you can shake a stick at. Personally I stuck to the girls and booze, but to each his own.

Lenny 2005-06-22 09:51 AM

Hopefully, by the time I get to Uni (is your college the equivalent of our University??) I should be get a grant - many universities are closing their Chemistry departments and in a few years there's gonna be a shortage of chemists...and I want to do Chemistry at Uni...government grant...oh yeah...:D

Penny_Bags 2005-06-22 10:06 AM

Lenny = England h4x

Kaneda 2005-06-22 10:16 AM

Universitys here are like better colleges. You've got your community colleges, your colleges, and you universitys.

Lenny 2005-06-22 10:18 AM

I've always thought our colleges are only two year dealies...

I don't know...

How's your search coming along??

Medieval Bob 2005-06-22 01:24 PM

The majority of degrees are 4-year degrees.

You can get a 2-year degree and be a nurse, but a lot of people get 4-year degrees (because....?) anyhow. UT has a really good nursing program. If you can't get into it (it's pretty competitive), there's UTA in Arlington that has a really good program and is cheaper (~$2000-2500/semester).

Kaneda 2005-06-22 04:14 PM

Actually it donned on me earlier that I could just go to the Austin Community College. Cause I know I don't have a chance w/ UT.

Titusfied 2005-06-22 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny
I've always thought our colleges are only two year dealies...

I don't know...

How's your search coming along??

Colleges and Universities are basically the same thing. When a "college" has a certain amount of students enrolled (like a population) it becomes a "university". Simply, the only difference is that universities are larger colleges.

All colleges and universities are the same type of ciriculum, and have the same time frame. Associates degree is usually 2 years. Bachelors is usually 4 years, and Masters is another 2 years. Those are the normals, however depending on how many credits you transfer from high school, and you course load each term, it can be faster, or longer.

undeadzombieguy 2005-06-23 10:43 AM

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Ganga 2005-06-23 12:45 PM

I thought my school was cheap, I am paying around 16000 a year, and it seen to be keep rising.

Grav 2005-06-23 12:51 PM

Snorting hydrocodone is fun.

Lenny 2005-06-24 12:39 PM

Don't you even get halls of residence??


Good grief...you poor guys!!

HandOfHeaven 2005-06-24 08:50 PM

Yes, underprivileged people are funny!

JRwakebord 2005-06-26 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganga
I thought my school was cheap, I am paying around 16000 a year, and it seen to be keep rising.


$16,000?? yeesh. Mine's at $40,000+

HandOfHeaven 2005-06-26 10:46 PM

College is going to burn a huge hole in my pocket (parents too).

undeadzombieguy 2005-06-27 12:25 AM

omg....

I'm paying €1475 a year, books and equipment not included (probably somewhere around €400)... There are some private schools that are €20000+ a year but I went to check them out and the quality of those schools isnt all that better than normal colleges.

Medieval Bob 2005-06-27 09:20 AM

Who are you paying $40,000?

Lenny 2005-06-27 09:54 AM

I'll be paying around the same thing...maybe...something in the region of £2000-£4000 I think...

How come these guys are all paying so much??!!

Titusfied 2005-06-27 06:19 PM

Drexel's like $33,000/year. It's in Philadelphia.

JRwakebord 2005-06-27 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
Who are you paying $40,000?

Fairfield U. in CT.

HandOfHeaven 2005-06-27 08:27 PM

Inflations fucking sucks. I just hope I can get a decent scholarship somewhere.

Chruser 2005-06-28 06:41 AM

Hmm, a teacher told me back in the day that the difference between universities and colleges is that universities have professors (and doctors?) who execute research in various subjects, and that there is no other diffence.

How do you manage to pay for college/university in the US, if you don't have a scholarship and/or a good economy to rely on to start with. Loans? What kind of loans?

In Europe (except for Scandinavia, where colleges and universities offer full tuition free of chage), it seems to be harder to get a $100,000 loan (for a 4-5 year period) for education, than a house loan at $400,000. I don't see how a house could be so much more important than an education, that the government and companies will easily sponsor you with 4 times more money than for getting a decent education.

WetWired 2005-06-28 07:16 AM

A house loan has little risk. If you don't pay, they reposesss the house and sell it to cover their losses.

Kaneda 2005-06-28 07:19 AM

We have scholarships, grants, student loans, and certain types of school sponsored funding like work study courses.
The amount of money a grant gives you depends on your familys income and what the government deems they can afford to pay for your college. A grant won't take up all of the slack though. If you don't have a sholarship, your usually looking at a student or parent loan.
Student loan: For Dependent Undergraduate Students: Year 1 - $2,625 Year 2 - $3,500 Years 3, 4 and 5 - $5,500

For Independent Undergraduate Students: Year 1 - $6,625 Year 2 - $7,500 Years 3, 4 and 5 - $10,500

So you can see even then, depending on your choice of school. You could still be hurting. Although most students have jobs.

True WW, my stepmom had students loans and she hasn't paid off any of them.

Lenny 2005-06-28 10:21 AM

Over here we can get student loans, and only have to start paying if our wage gets above something like £21,000 a year. If it doesn't after 20/30 odd years, then we don't have to pay them any more.

JRwakebord 2005-06-29 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser
How do you manage to pay for college/university in the US, if you don't have a scholarship and/or a good economy to rely on to start with. Loans? What kind of loans?

Parents :D

Titusfied 2005-06-29 07:15 PM

God bless em!

Penny_Bags 2005-06-30 06:19 AM

Yeah, and then when you squirt out a little fucker you pay for them too!! It's a cycle of fun for everyone!!

Lenny 2005-06-30 11:02 AM

Imagine having 3 daughters and no sons...then you're fucked.

Pay for this, pay for that, daddy I want those shoes, and those, and those, heck why not I'll have all of that shelf as well.

Daddy, I'm engaged...the 3 words all fathers hate to hear from their daughters lips...:p

JRwakebord 2005-06-30 04:12 PM

I've got 2 sisters, and they are bad as if not 4. Spoiled as HELL!

HandOfHeaven 2005-06-30 08:58 PM

That's so gay. I'm glad that I have 2 brothers. Girls have way too much shit. They need 20+ pairs of shoes, at least a thousand shirts and skirts, and endless amounts of other stuff. I wonder how much money was not spent for a guy as opposed to a girl.

Lenny 2005-07-01 12:54 PM

I've got one sister...and she gets everything whereas I get rarely anything, though when I do get things I get expensive things and she just gets clothes...she pays £50 for about 2 square yards of material for a skirt...it's crazy...at least things like my guitar are worth the £200 odd that I pay for them...

sue_13 2005-07-03 02:30 PM

I'm going to Ohio State this fall and I think it's only going to cost me around 11000 for everything. I'm not sure I remember the exact total though so that is just an estimate.


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