PSP Official News!
 

That's right boys, the PSP is in competition with the DS!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10...s_6111570.html <---News right up.

Basic pack is $185 (appr)
Advanced pack is $232 (appr) but includes Memory stick, headphones with audio controls, Battery pack.

Of course you can buy all these extra's seperately.

Here are some screens of the handheld. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10...70.html?page=1


The DS has just been FUCKED.

Not really.

I'm still going to buy the DS over this.

Depends what the US game lineup looks like. I will not buy either until there is a proven worthwhile game for them. I only got my GBA after I tried Advance Wars. An updated awesome game like that could persuade me to buy.

Holy shit that thing is huge.

That thing is balls, rofl.

Have I not explained in quite thorough detail why the DS is most certainly not fucked in this situation? It's still $240 for the actual package (who's going to buy this thing without a memory stick?!) and the game selection is going to be nothing but ports.

Being priced 60 bucks lower than most people were expecting makes no difference. Plus, those aren't even the North American MSRPs. Those are conversions based on the Japanese numbers. The basic package will either be equal to the amount or more expensive when it reaches America.

The PSP has fucked itself, compadre.

Also note that the release date, IN AMERICA for the ds is at 11/22 atm (www.gamestop.com). The psp is is being released in JAPAN ONLY on 12/12. Who knows how long until a us debut (less they said in that article, I didn't really care to read it).

Sony will probably hold off on the American release until the summer. Their only hope is to catch the kids who are filling up employment slots all over the country and lure them into a buying frenzy. That's still not the prime season for a hardware release, and the sales will suffer because of it.

On top of that, if Sony waits that long, Nintendo will have had 6 months to sell the DS at $150 apiece. By that point, they'll probably be ready to drop the price, making that $240 pricetag on the PSP look ridiculous by comparison.

Do they list the dimensions on that thing anywhere?
Someone wanna tell me please?

Big x Large x Wide.

I want to see sources on that, Grav.

Those dimensions are a lot...browner than I thought they'd be...

Approximately 170mm (W) x 23mm (H) x 74mm (D)

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele...f/041027ae.pdf

I'm so excited about this. The PSP is so much better than the DS in many aspects that it's not even funny. The Touch screen is a joke, it's so hard to play with it. I played Mario 64x4 and some Metriod Demo and it's crap. The dual screen option is nice, but it's small. The psp's graphics alone and newly lowered price are much more marketable.

yah i like the bigger screen rather than 2 small screens

this guy in my class was playing super mario 64x4 in his ds.......how lame is having to hit the fuckign screen to play...touch screen is good for some things but not for gaming, anyway as always nintendo's lineup is just kiddy games as usual.

You guys are pathetic. You resurrect a month-dead PSP thread to flame the DS.

Small penis syndrome, anybody?

By the way, one million DS pre-orders in America and two-million pre-orders in Japan = ownage.

Wow 3 million nintendophiliaks.

The game lineup is just like it was for GAMEBOY. And Gameboy advance, and Gameboy SP, and it just keeps going and going and going.

The touch screen is horrible, and you have to use that stupid ass pen if you want any precise shots or pushes, and holding a pen and controlling everything else with your other hand gets old and pissy. The DS is a bust.

Yes Raziel, I believe you have SPS......

Yep. 3 million pre-orders. That's not even the units that have been sold directly over the counter, because most retail outlets like EB and Gamestop sold out of their pre-order stock within 24 hours of opening the order channels. In Japan, Nintendo has had to contract a third manufacturing plant to start cranking out DS units because they can't keep up with consumer demand.


Funny, I don't recall seeing 3D, touchscreen-based Mario or Metroid games on the Gameboy Advance at any point. I must be going crazy. However, I have already seen all of the ports and rehashes that Sony is using to launch their handheld with.


No you don't. You can use your bare thumb or the thumb-strap included with the system. Actually, using either is far more accurate than using the stylus, and it allows you to hold the system with both hands. Nice try, moron. It's not Nintendo's fault that you suck at something as simple as touching a screen with your finger.


Yep. 3 million pre-orders = "bust".


I've got a GBA SP and a Nintendo DS. The tiny dick is all yours, buddy. Remember, you are the one who went and digged up a month-dead PSP thread to flame the DS. I'm just laughing at your pathetic attempts to justify it.

For one, I never said I couldn't use the Touch-screen, it was just annoying trying to play Metriod with it. The thumb-thing wasn't there.

As I recall, the Gameboy Advance games WERE IN 3-D.

Tiny Dick? Is that a flame ! OMG!

Like I've said before, i'll repeat it again in this thread. If I were 7 Years old, and in love with Mario, I'd want a DS. I want a more mature type of gameplay, and that cannot be delivered with the DS. All of their games are focused towards the 7-12 age category. While on the other hand, the PSP is exploding onto the market for the older 17-23 age group.

With the PSP's new lowered price, the capability to watch movies on it, pop on any of your USB ports into it, the PSP is Amazing for the price that it is, the DS is just another pathetic spin-off of Nintendo's before failures.

Name one of them that failed.

Well I guess the biggest System failure, would have to be the SNES. And mainly because of how shitty they marketed it, and when they released it. And overall it sucked.

It's certainly a hell of a lot more intuitive than Sony's "analog nub" on the PSP. The thing is the size of a dime and is positioned at the very bottom of the unit. Sounds like comfort-city to me! You try playing an FPS like that! The DS offers the only non-PC FPS play scheme that even compares to the mouse/keyboard setup. The PSP doesn't offer that. It offers a d-pad and a poorly-placed analog nub.


Oh Lord Jesus in Heaven, D3V you cannot truly be this ignorant, right? RIGHT?

This is a list of all games released at the GBA's launch:

Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity
Konami Krazy Racers
Rayman Advance
Super Mario Advance
Fire Pro Wrestling
Chu Chu Rocket
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2

All of those games were 2D, as is 99% of the GBA's total library. You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


Oh my God, you sound like the worst PR man in history. "The PSP is exploding onto the market..." God Almighty.


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Seriously, you just pull this stuff out of thin air, don't you? The PSP's American MSRP hasn't even been announced yet. The $189.00 pricetag is a conversion based on the Japanese MSRP. The thing is going to cost $199.00 when it comes overseas, and that doesn't include a memory card. With the memory card included, that rockets the price closer to $230.00 US. That's almost $100 more than the DS!

On top of that, you're not even factoring in battery-life, disc read errors or overheating. It's a disc-based system, D3V. How much bumping around in your pocket do you think the thing can take before it stops reading discs altogether? How long do you think you can possibly play it before it starts burning your hands because of the lack of ventilation and moving parts causing heat buildup? How long do you think the battery can take high-graphic titles like Metal Gear Ac!d before it drains itself completely?

The answer is: not much. At the recent TGS Gamers Summit, event staffers reported that Sony's PSP personnel were replacing dead batteries every two hours. The DS gets ten hours of battery life.

The thing is disc-based, so DRE's and overheating are an absolute given. Parts will eventually fuse together and wear down and it will stop reading those nifty little discs completely. The DS is cart-based, so overheating and DRE malfunctions aren't even an issue.

Okay, now that was just sheer idiocy. The SNES beat out the Genesis by the end of the 16-bit era, my friend. It's one of the highest-selling and most critically acclaimed consoles of all time. It beat out the Atari Jaguar, the NeoGeo, the 3DO, the Turbografix-16 and the Sega Genesis/CD/32X. All of those (except for the standard Genesis) were technologically superior to the Super Nintendo, and it destroyed them in overall sales numbers and recognition.

Do you just plug your ears and make all this shit up as you go? All you do is squawk the same inane bullshit over, and over and over again. You never have anything new to spout other than your tired "the PSP is exploding onto the scene!" commentary. Come back and talk to me after you stop ingesting drain cleaner. Maybe then you'll be able to formulate a decent argument.

Well the one game that I have with GBA is Mario Kart. I figured they were all in 3-d.

Mario Kart: Super Circuit isn't even 3D. It's uses a Mode 7 2D graphics engine, like the original F-Zero and the original Pilotwings.

Oh well, whatever.

All that matters is the amazing Graphics the PSP uses.

Well, Nintendo does have one horrible blemish.

Bring in the Virtual Boy.

Other than that, however, there's absolutely zero backing of the idea that Nintendo has had any system that has done even slightly poorly, much less failed.

...and the fact that the lithium-ion battery used to power the PSP will only be able to handle those graphics for two hours per charge.


The fact that both Ninento of America and Nintendo of Japan have seen an overwhelmingly larger pre-order rush than they expected, before Tnanksgiving, is a sign that the DS will not suffer the same fate.

Gameboy:Genesis
Nintendo DS:Sony PSP

You make me want to go out and buy a DS...

It's an extremely nice piece of hardware, and the gaming possibilities on it are completely unique to the system. If you're looking for a fresh gaming experience, grab a DS.

Sounds good.

Now close this shit up before D3V gets back in here...

I might just get up and decide to buy one!

http://www.konsolifin.net/ylli/uploa...intendo_BS.jpg

I almost died laughing the first time I saw that pic.

I'd buy one of those.

If I had 4000 bucks.

The fact is, if I was to buy either of them, it'd be a PSP.

I already have a memory stick, so the advanced pack is no use to me. I can use the memory stick between my cell phone and this, great! Plus, I really have no interest in all the games in DS. The stats on the PSP is pretty much equivilent(sp?) to the PS2. Allowing it to play the PS2 games that already look so much kick ass. I really can't ask for anything else! PSP!

Finally, someone else is on D3V's and my side.

Im getting sick of all the nintendo handhelds coming out. It took Nintendo too long to get the system right. The GBA was the first in this case, the positioning of the hands and the wide screen was great, than they wen tback to the fucking annoying way on the GBA SP. Big hands with the GB, GB color, GB pocket never allowed for easy use with the handhelds and on the GBA the handheld was finally decent enough. It took Nintendo that long to get it right and Sony is on there first try and they already got it right. Plus the nice wide screen, analog pad, the battery that is going to last longer than 2 hours but the n fan is bashing the PSP in any way possible. The battery length will depend on the game and the fact that if im in a vehicle using the PSP, I tend to use the car adapter or when im in the house I will use the AC adapter. Anywheres else I can use the battery pack. I dcant play a handheld game for 2 hours anywayz, its hard for me to stare at a small device no matter what it is. SO battery life is a non factor for me. All the games being released are games I want newayz, so its best for me to get the handheld version and play them newheres. Its not a big deal dishing out $100 dollars more for a handheld thats worth more than the DS. I would oly buy the DS if it cost $75 if no new PSP games were released at the time.

Did you ever consider they got it right on the first try (not saying they did) because they looked at what nintendo did?

It's all about preference... You want to spend more money on quality its up to you. But considering nintendo's track record with reliability im going to have to go with the DS on this one.

What the hell do you mean by reliability?

I've got plenty of nintendo products and I've never worried about them being reliable. I do believe the gamegear was pretty amazing compared to the gameboy. I've NEVER been a gameboy fan, the screens suck and the games suck. Now, I'm not bashing Nintendo, the SNES is the most genius system ever made, and until something else earth shattering comes out, it will always be my favorite.

Until I see a worthwile reason to get the DS, I'm not going to bother with it. I never got a gameboy advanced, I've never really even cared for handhelds, but the PSP looks pretty badass, and even though it has a pretty big pricetag it seems worth it.