Need Summoner Necro Build.
 

Pretty please. Gear/stat pts/skill pt allocation would be greatly appreciated. I have an idea of what I should use, but I just want to make sure.

Weapon: Beast
Armor: Enigma
Shield: Homonculus, Dark Force spawn
Helm: Shako
Belt: Arach
Boots: Soul Spurs
Gloves: Magefists, Trang Gloves
Rings: Sojs
Amulet: Maras

Merc
Weapon: Doom Polearm
Armor: Bramble
Helm: Shako

Skills Required:
1 Amp - For Physical Immunes
20 - Skelly Mastery
20 - Skelly Warriors
5 - Summon Resist
1 - Each Golem (Optional) I prefer to do so though, Iron works decently with amp and you need Fire golem point to syn boost the others.
1 - Corpse Explosion (Staple for swarm control)


Or go to http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread....ighlight=trang for more info. THank Ghost and Ext for builds

That's pvm setup. I'm looking for pvp >_>

ddamn sov nice pvp summoner, btw u might want to incorperate nova in there sumwhere...

u gonna try the telebarrage? ive seen one, one. he pwnt the shit outta every1 im like wtfever lol :cry:

id prob go 20 skele mastery 1st, then equal points into skelewarrior and skelemage, so like 1 into warrior, then 1 into mage, or wutever number u wanna use, think more about quality of skeles than number. and ide says prob eithr clay or fire golem, but only 1 pnt, then 1 golem mast then 1 summon resist. i dunno if ur gonna want to incorperate nova in or not, ive never made a telebarrage but basically u tele around and th skeles killl th shit outta evry1 heheh. ya id prob hav nova in there so lke wen ur teleing nova and th skeles take em out too. lol yep ^_^

Right now im thinking of maxing skeletal masteries, then get mages, and max lower resist. If done right, it should do a lot of dmg... but skeles have no life >_<

actually thats i think wut he did, i dunno if he had warriors, cuz like wen ur teleing dude like th mages spit magic like crazy lol now that i think about it i dunno if u should even to warriors, maxing th lower resist would hella help to, maybe go like low resis, skele mastery, skele mage, and sum nova. might be a good build.

Nova would be pointless. Too little dmg, even with lower res. Im thinking of putting rest into revives to use as shields against ww barbs and to tele onto sorcs and have them pk her.

ya ur prob right, with th little ammount of points ude hav in nova it would hav like no damage lol

use a fuckin cta on weapon switch.. major life for warriors :)

If ur still looking for a good guide. I saw one a while back, and they are loads of fun to play, Summon/bone, they use summon gcs too. If u want the guide, i can tell you the url sometime. Just tell me if ur interested

www.dracoy.1colony.com click on current projects b, it should all be there... hope this helps

Link it here. As of now i have nothing.

Heh, speaking of summon/bone... i just dueled it with windy... got killed ez... those littles skeles are as strong as noob melees... 10 of them on + bs hurts lol

Sov are you looking for a pure summoner or a hybrid of some sort?

Drac's is a hybrid obviously and probably a better pvp build in the end due to its better versitility at the expense of some better minions...

The actual link to his guide is:

http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=174269

Its more recent and updated and presents a far better build than what's on his site in pictures especially as far as gear and stats goes. To me the "Napoleon" pictures on his site seems far from what it could be and the point distribution seems off but thankfully he seems to have corrected it in the actual guide at least (or maybe just didn't follow his own advice/built it for something else or testing it).

Hmmm, thanks damon... i couldnt find the updated for some reason... so i linked his site... :D

No prob. :-D I had it handy simply because I love the various necros and have actually made guides but never bothered posting them as I've found people had already made similarly detailed versions and had come to similar conclusions and no point in repeating what's already been stated.

Personally I've always had more success with a variant on the bone-build especially in NvN but a good summoner really demands respect especially if they can teleport (just watch out for Rabies though!)

zzzzzzz

max skel mastery
max skel warriors
max skel mages
1 revive
1 summon resist
1 bone armor
1 lower resist
--rest nova

enigma
beast
homunculus
shako
maras
marrowalk
trang gloves
wisp
raven
10x summon GC
9x 5resist/20 life
anni

+skills will boost enough, revive reanimated hordes at pindle, they are reanimated in no time and their charge will do insane damage with the revive bonus + HoW + fanat + amp. kills all sorc ez.

revive black souls and go lower resist on everything else. kills ez.

enough str for equip
enough dex for equip, fuck max block, how will melee hit you
none energy
rest vitality (omfg how basic? -.- 2 ez?)

dont fight:
-light sorc
-fireball sorc
-orb sorc
-novanecro
-blizz sorc
-wind druid
-!!!javazon!!!
-rabies druid
-hammahdin

(if player has no sk1llz and is nuubie, ignore what ive posted above about "dont fight", nuubs will reply that wind druids get owned by necros, if so, then u r worst noob evah)

fight:
barbs
4fps fireclaw nuubies
every paladin except hammah
trapsin, if they r nuubie

gl wasting ur time sov :grin:

Scamalot... u play east nl?Cuz if ur refering to me... id gladly duel you a few times to shut you up... if not, ignore plz...
Anyways... GODLY bonemancers should beat GODLY wind druids for 1 and 1 reason only... at max cast necros are a frame faster...Which means they are faster... anyways.. tell me if u were talking about me scamalot... id love to duel you

Interesting take on things and Im not convinced its necessarily true depending on the exact build and gear set ups, but I personally don't feel that one really owns the other when both are in ideal condition.

Anyways, ScamAlot has essentially made a couple changes in Drac's build, substituting poison for bone, mages for bone wall, and deciding to put dex points into more vitality instead. I personally prefer max block just because if I ever teleport onto someone or if for some strange reason someone gets to me I don't want them getting lucky by hitting me once or twice and then I die (along with all my precious hard won minions!) and I'm not convinced the extra 200 life or so is going to make that much of a difference if someone actually is hitting me so I prefer to lessen chances of actually getting hit. Maybe I just suck at using minions but I've always found block to be a good thing and a staple in most guides for a reason unless its supplanted by skills such as the amazon uses (dodge/evade/etc).

As far as poison vs bone goes....that debate goes back to a poisonnova vs a bone necro except its only your secondary skill now instead of a primary. While you should have enough points and +skills to make poison decent, if you don't mind using a bug (which you dont if you use poison anyways), if you use marrowalks I think you consider the advantage of the 33 synergy to bone armor and spirit. With the setups Scam and Drac suggest both use essentially 96-97 skill points (level 85 or so with quests I believe) but while posion nova is certainly easier to hit with, if you decide to pump mages instead of a poison synergy, your damage won't be all that great once you factor in the other guy's resistances even with the poison not being reduced in pvp (and the fact some just think poison is cheesy). If you don't pump mages and/or you don't use marrowwalks you have more of a case for poison I think, though the bone prison/wall does synergize with your ever useful bone armor as well if you choose those routes..

Essentially in my opinion you'll need to decide if you want to max skeletal mages (or revives) or place the points in your offensive casting synergy. If you decide the latter then I think you'll want to make a decision regarding poison nova or bone spirit.

fuck psn dmg, only use 2 lag, the reason to dump rest in it is that teh dmg is a decent bonus and u r have nothing else 2 max anywayz...

GEEkZ readin ur reply makes me feels myself ashamed for being human, teh reaction u r gonna give ("Reading you incorrect grammar and so called "1337" makes me want to die/smash my had through the monitor/cry/other-sucky-comeback) makes me even more ashamed 4 being a human.


btw i was referr0rding 2 j00 :grin: :grin: time/place/account/game?

Meh. I don't like trying to use it _just_ for the purpose of lag in the event someone happens to have a better connection than I (as no matter how good one's connection is, someone always has a better one) and lag can hurt me as much as anyone else if the desynch goes the wrong way (exception being chargadins deliberate desynch attempt seems to get the better end though just by nature of the attack). Just dumping points into something for the sake of having nothing to raise doesn't make sense to me really as if it was a worthless set of points you could always pump more into revives for the hell of it or summon resist...or hell golem for another minion. No I think its important in a hybrid to have an offensive personal spell 1) to kill those first few monsters to start the minion pool and 2) in case you come up against someone who's wrecking your minions in which case you're in serious trouble but at least you have something to keep them on guard with. I agree its a decent bonus but I believe there's a method to this madness.

Sov when you wake up again let us know what you're thinking other than that a pizza would be good about now. :D

Omg lol scam , u say dont fight hammerdins,lite sorcs,blizz/orb sorcs,rabies,Javazon and nova nec y so noob?
juz Bh has to rip thru all the summons before hitting nec and u hav like 20+summons=20+hammers? for elements revive element immunes based on their class
only thing u cant be immune is from fireball since it has a blast radius but hotspur+nokozan = ~_~