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HandOfHeaven 2004-06-07 09:21 PM

Racism, Our friend or foe?
 
Well, I was at this state park floating down the river and stuff, and there were some Hispanics there. My friend's bro calls em dirty rotten mexicans, and they call us white trash and wiggers, though none of us was trying to act "black" if you will. I don't mind racism, but I AM white, so who knows. What's your standpoint on racism.

Hades-Knight 2004-06-07 09:26 PM

Racism will never end as logn as people are different....Int he future all that will be elft are black people.......their numbers grow bigger every day.

Slim 2004-06-07 09:27 PM

I'm completely against it, never really have understood why people would be stupid enough to hate others for the color of their skin. I find it's usually rednecks that always bitch about the "lazy niggers and spics" although they are just as (if not more) lazy than the people they hate. I mean if there wasn't racim we could actually hate each other for the people that we are.

Sovereign 2004-06-07 10:56 PM

I dont give a shit. If people are stupid enough to hate other people because of skin tone or any other stupid shit like that, more power to them. It prooves there stupidty.

Also, this is a good topic.

Moved to Gen Con.

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-07 11:02 PM

Wow, that's a first for me. It generally is the dumb rednecks who can't work for themselves, and must think they are superior to something other than a rock.

Thanatos 2004-06-08 10:02 AM

How the hell can racism be our friend?

frickaline 2004-06-09 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven
Well, I was at this state park floating down the river and stuff, and there were some Hispanics there. My friend's bro calls em dirty rotten mexicans, and they call us white trash and wiggers, though none of us was trying to act "black" if you will. I don't mind racism, but I AM white, so who knows. What's your standpoint on racism.

Racism will be our undoing. It is synonamous with ignorance.

I am white, but I have friends of all different ethnicities, genders, sexual orientations, religions, etc.

If I did not, I would know so little about the world. Different people with different thoughts educate us and make us all better people.

-frick

Sovereign 2004-06-09 01:25 PM

I don't know, but you may want to try asking the KKK. There ARE people out there who think like that.

sheerx 2004-06-09 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frickaline
Racism will be our undoing. It is synonamous with ignorance.
I am white, but I have friends of all different ethnicities, genders, sexual orientations, religions, etc.
If I did not, I would know so little about the world. Different people with different thoughts educate us and make us all better people.
-frick

I agree with everything except the sexual orientations.. Human beings are just not meant to be gay.. But you are correct when you say different people educate us. Even these gay people might have something good they can contribute.. Because there is positive and negative parts to everything.. Unfortunatly even queerness.

supaflip_69 2004-06-09 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sheerx
I agree with everything except the sexual orientations.. Human beings are just not meant to be gay.. But you are correct when you say different people educate us. Even these gay people might have something good they can contribute.. Because there is positive and negative parts to everything.. Unfortunatly even queerness.

from a marxist/economic point of view, gay people contribute more than the average straight couple. think about it, gay's generally do not/are not allowed/frowned upon adopting kids. So, they're "DINKS" (double-income no kids), without the gays our very economy would crumble

as for racism, i agree with that frick quote completely. The idea of knowing so little about the world by not accepting other races puts you "inside the box". Yes, the KKK have their own world views and according to the consitution of the united states of america, they can and will have their own morals and values. But, as soon as their hate goes beyond teaching, general conversation, and thought - and into the practice of hate. Then that is racism right there, which definetly is a gateway to many many forms of violence towards our neighbours... "what would jesus do?"

Machine God 2004-06-09 08:47 PM

Another point is Genetic Diversity. The human race needs genetic Diversity to survive. If everyone was racist, eventually the races' genetic diversity would dwindle to very little. That is over a large amount of time, of course, and we may develope technology to help us, but if we dont, the human race would be doomed if where entirely racist.

Also, if the entire human race was racist, there would be more war than ever before. The "White Maggots" would be fighting the "dirty blacks" while they fight the "yellow skins" and then they back to the "White Maggots" again. The entire world would be in turmoil.

So I say, you see a racist, you slit his/her throat, because those kinds of people will be the downfall for our great race, the HUMAN race that is.

Racism will never be anyones friend, what kind of retard would even suggest that!? Imagine you crash a plane over in africa. The only people around are the "niggers" but you are too stuck up to ask the "Native Blacks" for help. So eventually, you starve. They try to help you (Because generally people are good no matter what their skin color.) but you scare them off. You die in the middle of Africa, because you are a racist pig.

I am white, but I am liek the KKK against racists. The racists are the dirty ones. They are a desease, they try to preach their views onto the rest of us. They must all die, call me a bigot, but their views are disguisting. Where I live, it is dangerous to be racist, you make a racist remark, you suddenly find your arm broken.

So shut up fuckin HoH because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.



(No research or anything went into this so correct me if I'm wrong)

Sovereign 2004-06-09 09:12 PM

The human genome does need diversity, but think of this. THe human dna has billions upon billions of nucleotides. There are 256,000,000 people in the united stats alone. Lets estimate that about 175,000,000 are white. Out of those 175 million people, no two people will have identical dna. Their genes would mix, and create even more variety during reportudction. The human genome would do fine with interracial breeding. What do you think they did in europe before africa or south america was discovered. They bred with only whites.

If the whole world was racist, we would still be in the smae situation today. Diplomacy would be barely avoiding a nuclear war or whatnot. We arent stupid, we arent going to nuke someone unless somethin ghappens, not because they piss us off. UNless of course, you insist that humans at some point took a turn for the stuipider as well.

If you were to be able to slit racists throats for their beliefs, the same would be instated upon you. If they didnt like what you were saying, they should be able to slit YOUR throat. Otherwise, you would be discriminating against hte racists. And thats not to much better then racism itself.

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They are a desease, they try to preach their views onto the rest of us. They must all die, call me a bigot, but their views are disguisting.
Funny, the racists can say the same about you.

I dont support racism in the least bit, but if yoru going to have such an outladish arguement, at least make sence and support yourself.

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-09 09:23 PM

What teh fuck man? I never suggested that I am for racism, I am actually more against it. Shut up for what? The friend part?
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Originally Posted by Thanatos
How the hell can racism be our friend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovereign
I don't know, but you may want to try asking the KKK. There ARE people out there who think like that.

Most people who think it is our friend, are good for nothing rednecks who can't work for themselves. Tell me where I went wrong, please.

Machine God 2004-06-09 09:26 PM

Yeah... I guess I went a little over the top lol. But truly, wouldn't the human race be better off united then seperated?

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-09 09:29 PM

Yes I am all for that. I don't judge people by the color of their skin, I judge them by the content of their character like Martin Luther King Jr. wanted. Unity is how you come out on top, I just compare it to soccer. You can't have little bits and peices of skill by yourself, you must work together with passing and communicating and that way you will get a goal. Sort a good analogy i think.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-09 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
It prooves there stupidty.

You got 1/4 right.

Jamesadin 2004-06-09 10:04 PM

I personally don't care about a person. Black, white, yellow, red, homosexual, bisexual it doesn't matter to me in the least.

Machine God 2004-06-09 10:07 PM

Yah. Soccer! I love that game.

But yeah, aren't the racists the ones denying us unity? Think about it, I'm not as bad as the racists liek Sovereign said, because I strive to unite humanity through the way I think. Whereas they want to destroy the different variations of homo sapien and keep us all apart. There is strength in unity!

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-09 10:11 PM

You know I don't mind any race at all. My best friend is Mexican, he's awesome. I can stand Homo's and Bi's, if they don't try and make a move on me that is.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-09 10:31 PM

Maybe you haven't heard but homos and bis aren't races.

Machine God 2004-06-09 10:33 PM

My best friend is Vietnamese, and another Mauri (New Zealand Native Tribes People) I have many friends of different races, so racist comments sting me just as much as it would them.

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-09 10:39 PM

Well Jamesadin mentione that for a reason. I was just agreeing with him, there are different people within races, such as Bi's and Gays.

Machine God 2004-06-09 10:41 PM

Hmmm. Bi's and Gays are kinda weird... I wouldn't wanna be one, but I have nothing against them, it's their life...

Slim 2004-06-09 10:46 PM

They could probably argue that YOU'RE weird.

Machine God 2004-06-09 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim
They could probably argue that YOU'RE weird.

No. They can't. It would be a pointless exercise. We all know that the mwaning fo life is to reproduce. So we where given the proper "equiptment" to do so. You see, if you use that equiptment for stuffing up somone of the same sexes ass, that is the incorrect use, and therefore "weird". Imagine using tooth-paste to build a boat. That is an incorrect use, so it is "weird". Understand now Slim?

Machine God 2004-06-09 11:05 PM

Also, that is why we have evolved different sexes. So to reproduce with them and watch their tits... Uh, I said enough...

Slim 2004-06-09 11:06 PM

No one knows the real meaning of life, sorry to tell you but neither do you.
What is "weird" isn't set in stone, I may say one thing is weird although it's completely normal to someone else. By the way I wouldn't advise talking down to me, ever.

Slim 2004-06-09 11:10 PM

What the hell are you blabbering about? We haven't evolved different sexes, they just always have been, and probably always will be.

If we evolved different sexes, how the fuck did we originally reproduce? By spores?!

Sovereign 2004-06-09 11:12 PM

Actually, i believe we DID evolve sexes. Im pretty sure in the beginning of life, there wasnt a male and female amoeba.

Slim 2004-06-09 11:15 PM

Yes, but I believe he was talking about just humans.
I believe we evolved from monkeys and I'm pretty sure they had sex to reproduce. Although I'm not quite sure what monkeys would have came from.

Sovereign 2004-06-09 11:18 PM

It all depends on your belief on how life started. But anyway, lets get back on topic. Make another thread about evolution if you wish to continue this arguement.

Slim 2004-06-09 11:20 PM

Bah, too lazy for that. Besides, I can't stand bible beaters. They piss me off to no end. I'm sure there are a few around here so forget evolution vs. creationism.

Back on topic uh....fuck racism.

D3V 2004-06-09 11:39 PM

You guys are missing the whole point I think..

There are many aspects to racism. You can be a 'supremacist' and you ONLY like your own race. Such as a 'white supremacist'. Or you could have different 'levels' of racism. As in *You don't like certain blacks (Niggers) Or You don't like some mexicans (spics) Evaulated: Niggers are the ANNOYING, Loud, Arrogant, Ignorant, Welfarecollecting, Nogoodfornothing, worthless, rapping mother fucking peices of shit who don't give TWO shits about any other races. And Spics are the Pretty much the same way, ANnoying, Carrying switchblades, don't work, sit around and watch SpanishTV. Now these two are the same in many ways. Now there are Normal Blacks, and Normal Mexicans. These are the people that just act ... Normal. They don't go prancing around yelling, fighting constantly, fighting, ... No, they WORK. They have jobs, support a possible family. Actually make a good difference in this world. And whites can be the same way. White Trash (hillbillies that live in tralilers) and Wiggers. Trailertrash are the slangmouthed, mullet sporting, budweiser guzziling, nascar watching idiots who deserved to be shot in the face.

But my personal aspect on racism. I do Support it, I'm not a full-on racist. But if your a *nigger* or a *spic* or Some stupid ass wigger, then I'm going to fucking hate you, I don't care if I know you, I WILL Hate you no matter what. Your worthless.

But is it our friend or foe? Neither. It is a friend in a way that keeps the world organized. You have to have the haters, and the people that hate the haters, and the people love everything in the world. Its a Win-Lose situation, and We have to live with it / deal with it, there isn't any way of getting around it.

Thanatos 2004-06-10 09:22 AM

A nigger is a derogatory word used to replace "black people." There is no medium. If you call a wealthy, successful black person a nigger they still get offended. As do the gangster black people. There is no difference and I'm tired of hearing it.

D3V 2004-06-10 11:48 PM

I wasn't talking about the word nigger, dipshit, learn to read. Yeah, if I called a wealthy sucessful black person a nigger, its not because they're successful and rich, its because they are some b2k wannabe who made a hit song and some stupid hoes loved it and called up hundreds of thousands of requests to TRL. Your saying there is no difference between regular sucessful wealthy black person and a niggeR? Get your head out of your ass its obvious.

Thanatos 2004-06-11 07:09 AM

You actually did talk about a multitude of bullshit which included your definition of the word nigger. I'm pointing out that I disagree with you, nothing more.

I guess I'll have to repeat it for you since you didn't comprehend it the first time. A nigger is a derogatory word for black people. ALL black people; including black millionares.

NonGayMan 2004-06-11 09:19 AM

Isn't Niger latin for black?

Slim 2004-06-11 10:09 AM

Actually, I think it's a slur of the word "negro" which is Spanish for black.

Thanatos 2004-06-11 10:23 AM

Who cares about the origin! Nowadays, it is used as a harmful word for black people.

Slim 2004-06-11 10:26 AM

Obviously someone cares, that's why they asked.


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