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Sovereign 2004-06-04 11:57 PM

Botting MF%
 
What mf do you run while botting? I know this thread has been made before, so consider this an updated version of that htread!!!

Thanks to the generosity of Vollstrecker, im running 632 mf on my pindle blizzard sorc.

Alucard001 2004-06-05 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovereign
What mf do you run while botting? I know this thread has been made before, so consider this an updated version of that htread!!!

Thanks to the generosity of Vollstrecker, im running 632 mf on my pindle blizzard sorc.

714 blizz JHJ's without merc, 540ish on Abot

slaynish 2004-06-05 12:57 AM

Soon, i'm going to be running around 800 mf...

6 isted phase
4 isted shield
tals armor, ammy, and belt
perf nagels
perf travs
perf chancies
ptopazed shako
20X 7% smfcs...

Leme calculate

150+100+114+65+60+50+40+74+140 =
793

( dunno if i calculated right, fuckit)

Vollstrecker 2004-06-05 01:07 AM

IF I give you the Phase. ^_^

lol

Edit: That's actually 836% MF, cuz the Phase is 180%.

slaynish 2004-06-05 02:02 AM

Which is teh pwnzort. And you WILL give me the phase.. I'm trading you , n00b...

Horbar 2004-06-05 05:21 AM

I use around 400 mf on my blizzard sorc pindle bot. I run MMbot. 400 seems like plenty mf. I have been running for a couple months and everything is fine. I dont increase mf because I max damage for faster run times. In two months of runs with this mf there is nothing I don't find. (Except Tyreals and Arachnids) I have picked 6 sojs in this time as well. (US EAST LADDER)

Sovereign 2004-06-05 05:29 AM

No doubt that in two months you will find everything possible, but with higher mf, yoru chances of finding more GOOD stuff increases greatly.

Just for the sake of arguement, lets say pindle could drop tyraels.

Your mf is 400. YOu find, lets say 2 of this type of armor.

My mf will be around 750 soon. Thats almost TWICE the magic find you have. Chances are, i will find at least 3 of them. If not more.

And all i am sacraficing is 3-5 seconds on my run. I STILL do about 130 runs an hour. 20 less then the max i did when i had 400 mf with tals set.

I dont know if i made any sence just now. I have yet to sleep, so I may just be talking stupid. ^_^

celaron 2004-06-05 07:30 AM

what about that????

skulders amror, gold wrap-belt, +2skills+50mf amu
instead of tals set items...
skulders gives you +1 all skills, and with a ist rune it got most mf thats possible on an armor. (+1 means more dmg with sorc--> less attacks-->faster runs...)
shako is best for mf sorc, wouldnt change it

but the 7mf charms WOULD NEED ALL SOME MANA/LIFE, or fr ^^
then u can use more str for better block chance and str and DEX points!!!!
they help you for a more aggressive way of playing--> faster runs
however, u surely use a chicken module, or a good potion-script =)

koolio_kid2001 2004-06-05 08:54 AM

ok just to add PINDLE CANNOT drop TYRAELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Death 2004-06-05 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koolio_kid2001
ok just to add PINDLE CANNOT drop TYRAELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

that my friend , is something every1 knows :D

celaron 2004-06-05 09:25 AM

yeah, blizz wanted 1 item not to be found with botting ;)

Death 2004-06-05 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celaron
yeah, blizz wanted 1 item not to be found with botting ;)

stupid blizz ^_^
well , I rarely bot , so I dont care so much :D
still blizz is gay 4 bringing out 1.10 -.-

Vollstrecker 2004-06-05 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celaron
yeah, blizz wanted 1 item not to be found with botting ;)

You can find it by botting, there just isn't a Pit Bot yet. A bot can do anything a human can do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovereign
My mf will be around 750 soon. Thats almost TWICE the magic find you have. Chances are, i will find at least 3 of them. If not more.

Don't forget the diminishing returns. 400 MF = 236% UNIQUE FIND, and 750% is only 280% UNIQUE FIND. You likely will not notice much of a difference at all between his bot and your bot, Chief.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-05 12:41 PM

I kicked my MF up to 650 from 400 and noticed a difference. He drops a lot more uniques now.

Sovereign 2004-06-05 03:08 PM

I know.... i tried to account for that. Apparently, i "underaccounted". I'd still rather sacrafic a few runs for a chance at better items at each run. It gets annoying finding the same worthless itmes over and over and over again.

Sovereign 2004-06-05 03:09 PM

NO SHIT.

I was using it as an example.

I knew someone would go beserk over it...

dgpnd81 2004-06-05 05:44 PM

I Need A Working Booooooooooooooooooooot

Vollstrecker 2004-06-05 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgpnd81
I Need A Working Booooooooooooooooooooot

Die.

Then look in the botting section and look at the stickies...

platnum 2004-06-05 08:22 PM

I use around 600 mf. 800 with merc.

SlickFic04 2004-06-05 11:11 PM

445 mf, good times, its like xmas morning every morning. Lately i cant get passed 400 runs tho, STUPID FUCKIN IP BANS, FUCK U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ArGh!!!!!

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-05 11:40 PM

You can fix that you know...

Alucard001 2004-06-06 05:47 PM

Alucard in the lead with 714

SlickFic04 2004-06-06 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
You can fix that you know...

how would u fix that, oh great King A

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-06 08:46 PM

Change your create game delay from 2 to 3 in your ini.

Whisky 2004-06-08 03:18 PM

Will someone please explain why Pindle can't drop Tyrael's might? According to D2data.net, Tyral's Might is TC 87. I've gotten quite a few other TC 87 items from Pindleskin, both weapons and armor. I've also gotten Templar's Might (the other unique sacred armor) from Mephisto. So either D2data.net is wrong, or Pindleskin should be able to drop any item in the game, since TC 87 is the highest. And if you want to bring "area level into it" (which is explained in Nobbie's Magic find guide at diablo2.com), Pindle is in a lvl 83 area, which makes him lvl 86. If that's true, how come he's dropping TC 87 items? Either Nobbie is wrong about the "area level" thing, or D2data.com is wrong about what items are in TC 87 -- they can't both be correct.

Edit -- oh, to answer the thread, my magic find is 621 with my sorc -- not liable to get much higher until I get off my ass and get some ists. My barb can break 700 using dual ali-babas in his switch, but since my sorc kills pindle in 2 casts I don't bother with the barb anymore.

Sovereign 2004-06-08 03:26 PM

Isn't Tyraels Might ilvl 88 or something like that? He cant drop it because blizzard wanted ONE item that pindle couldnt drop.

Whisky 2004-06-08 03:33 PM

D2data.net lists it as Qlvl 85, in TC 87. Of course that could be wrong.

Edit -- correction, in another place they list it as 87, which could explain it all. So here's how it must work:

If MLV is => ILVL, the item can drop, even if MLV < TC.
That's the only explanation that fits all the facts.

Whisky 2004-06-10 04:58 AM

OK, I was flat wrong about the Tyraels -- I was going by data on websites that were wrong - thx for the correction. As for the question in the post, I've been running 633 MF on my pindle blizz sorc. Tip for any blizz sorc -- put an ethereal tomb reaver on your merc -- merc will kill a cold-immune pindle in seconds. Getting over 700MF on a sorc takes a lot of ists or charms (my barb can get much higher MF, but barb isn't very bottable). I got a fresh unique troll's nest yesterday, so that should motivate me to trade for some ists for my sorc. I'm lazy and I hate trading, especially since 50 net MF doesn't seem all that huge -- but I guess when botting every bit adds up over time. Still, I've done the math, and anyone who claims to have over 1k MF has an inventory so clogged with charms that they'd have virtually no room for picking anything up. I'd say anything over 400 is very adequate, and before I started botting I got tons of goodies from meph with only 350 MF. I don't think anyone has come up with an actual MF breakdown for 1.10, so I can't comment on how diminishing the MF returns are.


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