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Ganga 2004-05-12 10:11 AM

American got beheaded in Iraq....
 
I try to watch the video... coun't finish... it's too long.... too horrible... he got beheaded with a small millitary knife i think... couldn't see clear... the blood was flying, he was yelling hard... the process of behead i am estimating is like fucking 5 min.... with a small ass knife just keep cutting you neck... while you saw your blood flying out of your neck.... it was fucking horrible. I do not recommand anyone to watch the video, you will get nightmare of it.

After watch that movie, I thank god that I am so lucky to be here.

Titusfied 2004-05-12 10:35 AM

It was publically released? Where?

Ganga 2004-05-12 10:48 AM

it's online, I am pretty sure you can download it from like kazza and stuff, or even search on google, I got it off DC. .... I really don't recommand watching it.

Titusfied 2004-05-12 11:23 AM

Wow, just watched it... Thats a fucking disgrace... Now mother fuck anyone who doesn't think the U.S. had any right to bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. They are a bunch of filthy animals over there...

That makes me sick.

Acer 2004-05-12 11:24 AM

http://www.entensity.net has it on their site, but I agree with ganga, dont watch it

undeadzombieguy 2004-05-12 11:57 AM

titusfied shut up plz ur beginning to sound like D3v...in those bombings alot more innocent ppl were killed than the 1 dude who got beheaded.

Personally I think bush doesnt really mind what happened because now every1 is like, oh yeah thats why we went to war bla bla bullcrap like titusfied did. Also the prisoners thing is being pushed to the background which is of course also a good thing for the Bush administration.

Ganga 2004-05-12 12:02 PM

I wish I can just die in bombing than get beheaded, you watched the movie undeadzombie?

Chruser 2004-05-12 12:23 PM

You start a war, and you can't handle a single casualty. Did you think war was supposed to be like a big sports event? "Wow, 8000 Iraqis died, we're winning this!" Well, think again. If you can't handle the violence, then don't go to war. And don't you dare thinking it's the job of the soldiers to deal with the horrible violence. If you join the game, you better well be able to handle it.

I'm not implying that the video is anything but ogrish, but do you think that guy is the only one who has suffered in a war? Skip the controversies and look into what your fellow Americans are doing, and get done to themselves. There is no glory in war. Only suffering. Suffering and revenge.

Tai 2004-05-12 12:26 PM

War is hell.

Insanity 2004-05-12 02:17 PM

we are retarted for sending any ground troops at all. its all a publiblicity stunt, all we had to do was send a few jet fighters over saddams palace, and take his ass out, but instead we announec to the world that were about to go to war... how retarted? The media controls the world.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-12 02:19 PM

Exactly...now im gonna watch it. I can handle gory stuff. Still, sounds really bad.

Demosthenes 2004-05-12 02:26 PM

Agree with Chruser 100%. I'm still 100% against the war. This was supposed to be in retalliation for the events that happend at the prison. The whole thing pisses me off. I'm going to write a lot about this later, but for now, this will have to suffice. The thing that pissed me off most, though, was that this American's life was in the hands of the American government. The terrorists offered to spare his life in exchange for prisoners, but because of some stupid fucking "no negotiations with terrorists" policy, he was murdered. What the Iraqis did was wrong, no doubt about that, but this type of stuff is commonplace in the shadows of war.

Tyrannicide 2004-05-12 02:34 PM

Its not working. :(

Not to mean that in a bad way. I wanted to se it, cuzz i heard a lot about it.

Chruser 2004-05-12 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
The thing that pissed me off most, though, was that this American's life was in the hands of the American government. The terrorists offered to spare his life in exchange for prisoners, but because of some stupid fucking "no negotiations with terrorists" policy, he was murdered. What the Iraqis did was wrong, no doubt about that, but this type of stuff is commonplace in the shadows of war.

The thing is, if negotiations with terrorists were to be held, then it would be a huge sign of weakness from the American side. Terrorists around the world would KNOW they could take Americans hostage to be able to trade them for the release of their own mass murderers and such. In fact, making the US make an exception to their rule may be the motive behind this slaughter all along. Since it blatantly didn't work, they just disposed their prisoner to shock the world, and to show that "even a civilian like YOU" could be brutally murdered like this as long as the war goes on. But oh well, this was likely only a propellant to rake the locations of all terrorists anyway. I'm sure more casualties of war will be shown live to shock the public even more.

HandOfHeaven 2004-05-12 03:26 PM

That video is horrific. I almost puked, but of course I was eating a sandwich. One of my friends thinks I am a sadistic person because I was laughing at it, but I was actually talking about an ABS video with another friend.

slaynish 2004-05-12 03:32 PM

That pissed me off too.. The american government doesnt understand a thing... I agree with chruser 100%... War is stupid, it is like boys fighting over who gets to play XbOX first.. It pisses me off.. I know i have no voice or say in this whatsoever but in my own opinion.. I would much rather live in canada and chill w/ jamesadin then have to live here.. Or kick it with chruser in sweden... ( their neutral right?)Thats just the way i feel.

War sucks.. It always will.

Sovereign 2004-05-12 03:38 PM

I watched it, it was shitty video quality. It showed a new image every 10 seconds. It wasnt a continuous stream. The screaming was a bit morbid, but what i saw wasn't THAT bad. (i mean it didnt bother me, of course what happened to him was fucking terrible). Heh, the cowards dont even have the gall to show their faces. Animals.

Bomb them to hell.

slaynish 2004-05-12 03:54 PM

Bad Bad Men They R Bad Bad Men!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chruser 2004-05-12 03:59 PM

War is but a number, until you see what lies beneath the surface.

Neko 2004-05-12 04:15 PM

I will say this first: nobody loves war. War is the cause of death, hatred and destruction. Nobody can argue against that.

However, sometimes war is necissary. When I see people on the streets screaming their lungs out with protests, saying that we are murderers for going to Iraq, I'm curious. Have these people gone to Iraq?

Were the women in the crowd, usually ever pressing for "women's rights" in trivial things like millionaire golf tournaments, treated like subhumans, property of their husbands and good for nothing? Covered head to toe in cloth when in public? Unable to attain basic education, much less college education?

Do all the people who cry for racial freedom in our country and constantly accuse the US of being horribly racist know what it's like to have an entire village of their kind attacked by chemical warfare because they were Kurds? Did they die in the streets and have their offspring grow up to have horrible defects and diseases?

I know this war has been arranged in a rather messy and not always truthful way. However, when I think of Iraq under Saddam I keep seeing those horrible pictures of the dead Kurdish women and children in my head.

I would suggest a book for anyone who wants to know a bit more about the sort of things often innocent people of Iraq had to endure. It's called Mayada: Daughter of Iraq. The book is written from the testament of an Iraqi woman who had many connections with the Iraqi government and things she had to endure. It solidified my opinion about the war.

uncapped 2004-05-12 04:40 PM

This shit belongs on a Faces of Death video. Goddamn...

Thanatos 2004-05-12 05:24 PM

It eventually will.

Anyway, that's horrible. =\

KagomJack 2004-05-12 05:57 PM

I know, it was horrible :( I can't believe that they released it to the internet. It's all kinds of fucked up :(

Tyrannicide 2004-05-12 06:14 PM

yea, the vid finally worked. It was not gory at all, mainly because of the shitty vide quality. That is just the beginning of payback the Iraqes are prolly going to do.

badboy 2004-05-12 07:22 PM

This war is all about their sexual superiority from their religion. Their religion is based on some guys up in mountains who pillaged all the people who passed by and fucked their "virgins" and smoked drugs all the time. If we come over there and take away their superiority to women, mainly by them being paraded around like animals, naked, and by a women ( which I might add is a great way to demoralize them, because they lose their dignity ) and this beheading was all about them getting the dignity back to the soldiers who were in the pictures that all the fucking liberals are making a big deal about and now, the liberals political ideals are costing American lives. And the man was not a American soldier, he was a Communications expert who was helping to rebuid Iraq. I'm really tired of all you peoples anti-american, anti-war sematism and it's really starting to piss me off.

MightyJoe 2004-05-12 07:49 PM

I agree with badboy's comments, also didn't think the video was all that gory. It will be seen by many people, and I feel it might end up helping the war efforts more.

Acer 2004-05-12 08:18 PM

I rather be bombed then what happend to him

Acer 2004-05-12 08:19 PM

Im really getting the feeling you hate America :P

I don't think we should of attacked Iraq cuz they had oil, I mean "weapons of mass destruction?". The thing is... it shows how americans are proud to be american and will do as they are told... its good/bad. Whats bad is they end up thinking its for the good, just like the nazis

badboy 2004-05-12 08:34 PM

I can't take ignorance.

-Spector- 2004-05-12 10:01 PM

did it make u guys download it fromthat site? or could you just watch it? i have to d/l it but it had an error..wtf

Sovereign 2004-05-12 10:04 PM

It poped up another page, where widows media played it. It for me stoped numerous times. i had to reload at least 5 times before i got it to play.

-Spector- 2004-05-13 04:59 AM

what link did u click?

-Spector- 2004-05-13 05:44 AM

:eek: that was disgusting. it didnt stop for me so i dunno what is up with ur comp/internet

undeadzombieguy 2004-05-13 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyJoe
I also didn't think the video was all that gory.

yea your right it wasnt really, I've seen worse. The video quality is really bad, I suggest they buy some new camcorders, digital ones or something.

Titusfied 2004-05-13 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser
You start a war, and you can't handle a single casualty. Did you think war was supposed to be like a big sports event? "Wow, 8000 Iraqis died, we're winning this!" Well, think again. If you can't handle the violence, then don't go to war. And don't you dare thinking it's the job of the soldiers to deal with the horrible violence. If you join the game, you better well be able to handle it.

Difference is, the process of the casualty. Beheading someone, after being help captive, proclaiming their name, the names of his family members, and hearing a 3 minute speech that "justifies" their actions? Thats just bullshit, and that is the type of animals we are dealing with.

America didn't start the war. Afghanistan terrorists, namely Al Queda, started the war. Iraq just happened to be part of the means to an end. Iraq had a dictator that did much worse than that over his reign, and it just boggles my mind that people can't get it through their head that any reason to dethrone that maniac is good enough. Oil, terrorists, whatever. Sadaam was murderer, a mass genoicist. I honestly wouldn't care if America said they were going to go to war to get him out over the quality of his lawn. He was a tyrant and something needed to be done about it.


And shut the fuck up undead, I am by no means on the same page of D3V. Like Chruser basically said, War is Hell. There are certain rule of engagement. There is a certain etiquette in war. Casualties sometimes occur. Calateral Damage is a part of war, and it is a shame, but taking someone's life in vain like those freaks did is intolerable. Capturing someone, and beheading them for something they have no control over is different. Sure, innocents were killed in bombings, but like I said earlier, it was the process that was different. Had America gone into Iraq, captured a bunch of POW's, tortured them to death on video, and released it to the world, then there is a problem.

I stand by my convictions. Those people are animals and they deserve to be slaughtered.

NonGayMan 2004-05-13 07:36 AM

I've seen worse, but that's still horrible.

Wouldn't you be dead right when they cut your neck?

NonGayMan 2004-05-13 02:36 PM

http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

Read some of this.. the video might have been fake.

undeadzombieguy 2004-05-13 03:08 PM

Well, this really botheres me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titusfied
They are a bunch of filthy animals over there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titusfied
I stand by my convictions. Those people are animals and they deserve to be slaughtered.

As if everyone over there is active in terrorist groups and love to see something like that happen, its just not like that.

zeal311 2004-05-13 03:09 PM

He wasn't even a soldier. He was helping them rebuild communication antennaes. Sad....

Titusfied 2004-05-13 03:17 PM

Of course I know not everyone has the same theories and would act the same way. I'm clearly talking about Al Queda, militant resistance, terrorist cells like this one, etc.


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