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KagomJack 2003-11-29 10:55 PM

What is your standing
 
on same-sex marriage?

Demosthenes 2003-11-29 11:00 PM

do what u want...just not newhere near me...or where i can c it

KagomJack 2003-11-29 11:02 PM

you said what a friend of mine just said when I asked him that question.

Sovereign 2003-11-29 11:03 PM

I dont give a shit what they do just keep me out of it.

KagomJack 2003-11-29 11:05 PM

well, i'm against it, on very many grounds: Personal and Religious.

DaFrigginDoctah 2003-11-29 11:09 PM

I could give a rat's ass.

KagomJack 2003-11-29 11:14 PM

I kinda figured you'd say something like that DaFrigginDoctah

Thanatos 2003-11-30 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
I dont give a shit what they do just keep me out of it.


rusher657 2003-11-30 02:36 PM

No no no no its wrong and nasty gay guys are nasty oh my god I hate gays.

Kuja 2003-11-30 02:42 PM

Allowing ppl to proceed even more with their psychological disorder ?
Thats stupid. If they dont want to be fixed. They should be shot.

Penny_Bags 2003-11-30 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuja
Allowing ppl to proceed even more with their psychological disorder ?
Thats stupid. If they dont want to be fixed. They should be shot.

Pure genius. Good work Kuja.

Chruser 2003-11-30 04:04 PM

I'm a militant atheist. Age, morals and religion shouldn't determine your boundaries; only your own ability to deal with things should be what ascertain whether or not you should be allowed to do what you want. Age limits for various things, such as having to be at least 18 to 21 years old (depending on your location) to drink, are just set to legally prevent people from becoming alcoholics before they, for instance, reach their teens.

Some say sex before marriage defies God, not to mention it can lead to unwanted pregnancy. The first part is ridiculous, but the latter is always a risk you encounter, whether you're married or not. If you're 12 and want to have sex, then go right ahead, but you better damn be aware of the fact that having sex with a condom will get someone pregnant approximately 5% of the time. This is a relatively high risk, which "fortunately" exists all thanks to sloppy people who can't use a condom right. But that's a whole different story.

In conclusion, have sex whether you're ready to. Who gives a fuck about marriage? Whether you're 12, 22 or 62 and can't do it right, you shouldn't be doing it at all.

Jessifer 2003-11-30 04:24 PM

Asking a question such as this is as dangerous as asking people their views on abortion.

I personally am all for same-sex marriages. If two people fall in love with each other and want to be together forever, who has the right to stand in their way?

D3V 2003-11-30 05:04 PM

I think that Gay marriage should be disapproved.

I know that there is lots of controversy about it, but when we do this it just allows gays to act more obnoxious than before. They always bitch about being prosecuted for being crossdressers and bullshit, and in utah people get arrested for having same sex. Thats Great! Throw their gay asses in jail, who gives a shit, they will really get ass-banged in there.

I think that lesbians are disgusting. No, not www.lesbians.com or whatever but real lesbians. Not the ones you may see on a website, but the nasty, wrinkly, harley-riding tattooed to hell beer stenched women. Woman power! They have so much bullshit on their side. They go on about how they are 'Independ Working Women' and shit, but allowing them to get married just gives them more power, and that should not be allowed.

RoboticSilence 2003-11-30 05:55 PM

The only thing I hate are "Womyn"... ignorance is not they way to live.

KagomJack 2003-11-30 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by D3V
I think that Gay marriage should be disapproved.

I know that there is lots of controversy about it, but when we do this it just allows gays to act more obnoxious than before. They always bitch about being prosecuted for being crossdressers and bullshit, and in utah people get arrested for having same sex. Thats Great! Throw their gay asses in jail, who gives a shit, they will really get ass-banged in there.

I think that lesbians are disgusting. No, not www.lesbians.com or whatever but real lesbians. Not the ones you may see on a website, but the nasty, wrinkly, harley-riding tattooed to hell beer stenched women. Woman power! They have so much bullshit on their side. They go on about how they are 'Independ Working Women' and shit, but allowing them to get married just gives them more power, and that should not be allowed.

I agree with you. (Just because I can't help it, but it's Independant)

zagggon 2003-11-30 07:27 PM

The Ultimate Fagg Fest=San Fransisco...

Sovereign 2003-11-30 07:29 PM

Ah welcome back zagggon!! i See your posting habits havnt changed either!! However true it is that homosexuals are very frequesnt on San Fran (or so it seems), there are many other places. Lets not stereotype gay marrages with California.

Eddie_Perez 2003-12-01 04:50 AM

I am the Denominator!

Raziel 2003-12-01 06:02 AM

I'm fine with it. Personally, homos don't bother me. One of my best friends is gay, and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Yes, gay (male) sex is disgusting, but that doesn't mean that gay love is. If a person can find a healthy relationship in someone, regardless of their sex, race or religious orientation, then I say "go for it." Just let it be known that if you're a dude, you won't find that relationship with me.

Kuja 2003-12-01 06:55 AM

How can a Psychological Disorder be healthy ?

Gsus 2003-12-01 07:47 AM

meh, let them eat cake.

Doofus_AW 2003-12-01 11:09 AM

No

Sovereign 2003-12-01 11:11 AM

Elaborate doofus. Why do you care what otehr people do if it in no way involves you. How does that affect you.

quikspy67 2003-12-01 12:10 PM

No it isn't right we should follow god's design.

Kuja 2003-12-01 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
Elaborate doofus. Why do you care what otehr people do if it in no way involves you. How does that affect you.

First off. It is proven that psychological disorder can and will affect the ppl arround of the distrubed one.

By making ppl accept their psychological disorder it actualy in long term giving the same effect as a slow plague.

These kind of psycological disorder should be fixed and those that do not want to be fixed should be euthanized.

Penny_Bags 2003-12-01 03:04 PM

Each sentence doesnt need to be it's own paragraph.

But I say that homosexuality is a psychological disorder based on the assumption that people must procreate to survive. People are here with instincts to continue the human race. And these instincts are not there in gay folk, making it a psychological disorder.

Scientifically I think it is wrong for that reason, and religiously I think it is just an impure choice.

Jessifer 2003-12-01 04:33 PM

If people are going to be gay, they're going to be gay regardless of how other people feel about it. It's not accepting the fact that there is homosexuality out there and that it's becoming increasingly normal that's a problem.

From what I've seen, most gay men tend to be a ton more open-minded and understanding than straight men. A few members in Zelaron seem to have proven this.

Really, what's so hard about just accepting homosexual people? You don't have to like it, but just acknowledging it, [/i]without[/i] throwing out lewd comments, hateful statements, and narrow-minded opinions, would be a step in the right direction for all of mankind.

Jamesadin 2003-12-01 04:37 PM

I think they should be allowed to do what they want, becuase I don't think someone should be fucked over just becuase they think of something different. Personally, I really don't care what they do, but they shoudl be given the same privilages as us.

Plus, people are saying things about how religion says it is wrong. Well, I believe in God, and would He degrade one person becuase of a psychological disorder? No, he wouldn't. And for all of you scientific people, you might say that it shouldn't be allowed becuase it is a psychological disorder, and therefore it shouldnt be allowed. Well, you can't fix it, so what are you going to do? Not allow them to express themselves, then make them feel worse? No, it isn't morally right.

So, I will argue till the end of time about this. Should what they be doing be a crime. No, get the police officers to stick to getting the crooks, not busting two people for loving eachother.

PS. Becuase I know if I didn't put this, people would think strangly of me, but I am straight, just to let all you homophobes know.

KagomJack 2003-12-01 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by quikspy67
No it isn't right we should follow god's design.

That is what I say to people a lot of times. They usually get all pissy and say that I just believe in a book that was pure fantasy. But I agree, follow God's design. 8===D + (_o_) does not = children. But hey, that's just my opinion.

Sovereign 2003-12-01 04:41 PM

Ok, proove to me that god exists. Proove to me that he really said all that.

Jessifer 2003-12-01 04:43 PM

I believe in a god and all, but I definately don't believe in everything the book says.

KagomJack 2003-12-01 04:43 PM

My only response to your question, Sovereign, is that God is very much like a postulate (i think this is the right word), you can't prove God exists, yet you can. God is a spirit, but God is intangible, like air, yet you know Air exists. Relying on science is a good thing, but in the matters of paranormal, spiritual, or supernatural, science isn't all that great in those areas.

Jessifer 2003-12-01 04:45 PM

What does that have to do with proving God is against homosexuality?

Jamesadin 2003-12-01 04:46 PM

Kagom, read what I said about the God bit in my post a couple above this one, I just would like to hear your response to it.

KagomJack 2003-12-01 04:50 PM

well...heh...you got me there. But my only defense is the book of Leviticus in the Old Testament (I forget the chapter and verse) and the Letter to the Romans (ditto). In Leviticus, it says mankind shall not lie with mankind as he does with womankind for it is an abomination. I personally think celibate homosexuals are ok with God, repentant homosexuals are ok with God, but unrepentant homosexuals aren't in a very good standing with God.

Eddie_Perez 2003-12-01 05:25 PM

Anyone ever listen to Coast to Coast AM?

Kuja 2003-12-01 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessifer
Really, what's so hard about just accepting homosexual people?


How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder?
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable ?
How would i be able to live with myself if i would accept a bunch of brain damaged bastard ?

It's not about being open minded or not. It's about not accepting FAILURE! They do not deserve to live, they are SHAME to society and should be dealt with. They dont want to be fixed.

To the fags that dont want to be fix i suggest you pay 10$ and they take out the needle and put you to sleep.

Sovereign 2003-12-01 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kuja
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder

I have a psychological disorder. Im bipolar. Does that make me garbage, does that make me worthless. Does that make me any less human. I dont think so. Its just something wrong in my head that i cant really fix, well wihtout the help of medication that is.

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Originally Posted by kuja
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable

Your CONCEPTION was a mistake kuja. No this is not a flame it is true. The walls of the vagina are very acidic, so as not to let stuf through. Its mean tto kill all. The fact that the sperm that came to conceieve you got through is a mistake. Does that mean you should be killed? Does that mean your any less of a person then anyone else? No.

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Originally Posted by kuja
It's about not accepting FAILURE!

WHo are you to tell people what is failure or not oh all knowledgable one. Maybe its you who has the psychological failure in their head that causes people to become unable to accept homosexuals.

THats my say on the subject and the last time im posting in this thread by the way/

Kuja 2003-12-01 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
Quote:

Originally Posted by kuja
How stupid would it be to accept someone psychological disorder

I have a psychological disorder. Im bipolar. Does that make me garbage, does that make me worthless. Does that make me any less human. I dont think so. Its just something wrong in my head that i cant really fix, well wihtout the help of medication that is.

Do you try to get fixed ?
If no.
Then you are garbage.

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
Quote:

Originally Posted by kuja
How stupid would be to think an error of nature is acceptable

Your CONCEPTION was a mistake kuja. No this is not a flame it is true. The walls of the vagina are very acidic, so as not to let stuf through. Its mean tto kill all. The fact that the sperm that came to conceieve you got through is a mistake. Does that mean you should be killed? Does that mean your any less of a person then anyone else? No.

I fail to actualy see a point to this. You know that your saliva is actualy helping to dismantle the food and help destroying some of the bad thing in the food ? So eating is not natural ? I dunno if you actualy looked at evolution but back then we didnt have soap or shower. It is only NORMAL that it is acidic so it would kill BACTERIA that could be on the EXTERNAL PART OF THE MAN PENIS! If it wasnt it would actualy have been impossible to procreate and bam we wouldnt exist cause every female would of died of huge vaginal infection.

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
Quote:

Originally Posted by kuja
It's about not accepting FAILURE!

WHo are you to tell people what is failure or not oh all knowledgable one. Maybe its you who has the psychological failure in their head that causes people to become unable to accept homosexuals.

It is easy to see what is a failure or not. We are designed for some things. Failing to do that is being a failure. We live to pass the future to the children we get. Being gay has no future and there is many reason that i could go on for days and weeks. FAILURE!


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