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Thats pretty fucked up.

Cough* lightwave cough*

What are you trying to say?


SNES>All.

This is retarded. It's almost as if you're assuming that a person would buy all that equipment solely to play SNES ports. I bought a Gameboy Player mainly because I don't like the idea of running down my GBA SP's battery charge at home. I use the portable at work, and the Player at home.

Sure there are plenty of fanboys who are going to buy the ports and that nifty controller, but to assume that a SNES fanatic would go out and buy a Gamecube, GB Player and neato controller strictly for the purpose of playing Super Ghouls and Ghosts is beyond stupid. Nobody in the world would unnecessarily spend 250 dollars solely for that purpose, and anybody that would deserves to lose 250 bucks anyway. The author of that picture is a moron.

Agreed., the author is an idiot.

Am I an idiot for thinking Nintendo's cashing in on people's desire to play old games instead of delivering new content? Or are the people buying the same game again idiots for giving their money to Nintendo?

Something that didn't come across clearly in that image I made was that Nintendo's double-charging the customer and the customer is happy to pay. Why couldn't Nintendo give us a screen that doesn't suck? Why couldn't they give us a modern handheld instead of this GBA piece of crap that was completed in 1996?

I wanted it to be a wake-up call. "Hey chumps, you already bought this game, and now you're paying again for an inferior version."

And the simple fact is many people ARE buying into this platform (both the GBA + GC w/ player) simply to play their old SNES games again. We've all heard the fanboy rallying cry: The GBA is the last bastion of 2D!

Does it matter to us that most games are rehashes and re-releases? It should.

http://curmudgeongamer.com/article.p...30813144801633

You don't have to buy it, if you don't like it then don't buy it, stfu kthx.

NeoGeoMan, you're an idiot for assuming that a human being would spend 250 dollars SOLELY for the purpose of playing SNES ports. People pay that much money so they can experience GCN games and GBA games (both new and old) on the same piece of equipment. The GBA Player is cheaper than a GBA SP, so why not pick one of those up instead of the portable?

And you're also making the moronic assumption that only adults are buying these SNES re-releases. What about the kids who weren't old enough to own a SNES in it's heyday, or never had the opportunity to purchase these games in their original incarnations? What about those of us who no longer have copies of these older games, or never owned copies of the games (I for instance never owned a copy of the original F-Zero, so I purchased Maximum Velocity) and don't want to use EBay, or hunt a copy down through other means?

You make the infantile assumption that the only people purchasing these games are fanboys buying them because of some lame-ass gimmick. You've completely ignored a host of alternative reasons for spending money on these products all so you can preach to a bunch of nerds like some pasty, pudgy, bitter, internet geek-messiah. Pack your shit and hit the road, Wilbur. You've just been owned.

Are they making games to go with this new SNES thing?

What new SNES thing? We've been talking about The Game Boy Player this whole time.

I don't know, seemed to me like people were talking about a new SNES attachment for the GCN.

the game cube is now 80 bucks !!!

No it's 149 bucks, pal.

actually here in california, it never went that much !!
it was for 129 for a while now its 80 bucks !!! (no game though)


..............buddy :-)

Maybe used... look at the online stores... buddy.

of coarse online (plus shipping)
but if you go to target of to the nearest blockbuster video it is 129....bran spanking new!! there is this place right next to my house that sells stuff cheap has hell even dvds that just came out for only 14 bucks (i.e.Cradle 2 the Grave (2003)) !! thay ALSO sell gcube for 80 bucks (used for 70) not too many here use gcube. There is not too many games made!! ......doctor :-P

That store probably sells ones that were broken and fixed or DVD that had printing errors and the like... zoo employee.

there is a 90 day garentee though, and stilll sealed !

Well there usually is... if not you got fucked over, Death Star Airlock Tester.

as long as i got that warrantee i consider it new?? must make a lot of money??

Actually Robotic, Nintendo has announced that they are lowering the price of the Gamecube to around 100 bucks. 80 does sound a bit low, and I had no idea that the price drop had already taken effect, but it's the truth regardless.

I dunno why you're so hostile, but maybe if you settled down a moment we can discuss the issue at hand. Maybe I'm not making myself clear: my point is not only that Nintendo isn't doing us any favours with this new hardware but that a lot of people are blinded by the gadget factor. The simple fact is some 95% of the time a GBA Player + GC can only be used to play SNES (or other lesser Nintendo console) rehashes, because that's all the GBA library offers. Most people who see the image I put together say "Wow, you're right, I have a SNES in the closet and the local pawn shop has all these games for $2-5 each."


Yeah, you're totally right, classic games never die. For the most part neither does SNES hardware, and I'm not sure why you're so adamantly opposed to my suggestion that people can get better cheaper games?

Yeah, far be it from me to suggest people can save $30+ every time they feel the urge to play a game that's been out for up to ten years. What was I thinking?

Perhaps you're reading too much into this. Do you want to go grind your axe and maybe come back and start over? Whatever agenda you're following doesn't seem to have anything to do with me. All I said was "Hey, look at this, you might have overlooked the fact that all these new games are, <gasp><shock> old games re-released with lower resolution and require hardware that's twelve times more expensive than necessary." I didn't say people were stupid for doing it, I didn't say you shouldn't get the GC + player, I never said anything disparaging whatsoever about the people who DO do it. My criticism was aimed at the people who are selling it, that seems clear enough to me.

It's a single image, how much should I have put into it? It's already too wordy, you want it should have been double the size and loaded with disclaimers and clarifications, addendums and rebuttals?

I'm always hostile. Asking "why" isn't going to produce a satisfactory explanation one way or another.

That is one of the most blindly inaccurate statements I've ever read. "That's all the GBA library offers"? Have you even attempted to look at the GBA's 300+ game roster outside of the handful SNES re-releases the handheld claims? I can name a total of seven re-releases.

Super Mario Bros 1, 2 and 3
Super Mario World
Zelda: A Link To The Past
Super Ghouls and Ghosts
Donkey Kong Country

The rest of the library (aside from one or two games I might have missed) are entirely new games. A lot of sequels, yes, but games that have not been released previously. Regardless of how hard you look, regardless of how long you search, you're not going to find any more than five or six other re-releases out of the massive library the handheld boasts.

And that's a logical response to the scenario. What you're saying is that purchasing a Gamecube and GB Player is completely worthless because the only thing you can do with it is play old SNES games. And that is an absolute lie. That picture depicts a message of "Why spend 250 dollars on a Gamecube and GB Player when you can spend 20 on a used SNES, since the only actual value you'll get out of the GC/GB Player combination is playing old SNES games."

Because that's not what you're suggesting. You're suggesting that people should forego purchasing an entire console and peripheral for a cheaper, used (albeit awesome) console because they both provide the exact same service, and that's just simply untrue.

Once again, that's not what you're suggesting. You're suggesting what essentially boils down to this scenario:

A dude, sitting at home saying to himself "man, I haven't played Super Ghouls and Ghosts in a long time! Maybe I should go out and spend $250 dollars on a console and peripheral that will allow me to play it!"

The only other available scenario is that the person already owns a Gamecube and Gameboy Player and says to themself "Hey, I haven't played Super Ghouls and Ghosts in a long time, I'll go spend 30 dollars so I can play it!" I agree with you that in this scenario the person should go to the nearest Funcoland and pick up the old SNES game, but if they don't already own the console, what's the point? The cost will only be a 5 to 10 dollar difference in the end, and if they buy the GBA version they have the option of portability.

Do you understand what I'm getting at now. If you had made the comparison between just buying the GB Player Peripheral or a GBA SP to buying a used SNES, that would have been a little more reasonable. But including the Gamecube in the picture is plain idiocy. It's almost understandable to imagine that someone would go out and buy a GB Player specifically for the purpose of playing old SNES games, but it's not reasonable to assume that someone would buy a Gamecube, GB Player and 3rd party controller all specifically for the purpose of playing strictly SNES games. That 250 dollar price comparison isn't accurate, and it doesn't really make a ton of sense either.