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Thanatos 2002-11-30 04:44 PM

Say... what the?
 
Zelaron: are you aware of how "simulated randomness" works?
bwjiz: err.. no
Zelaron: generally, NOTHING is random on a computer
Zelaron: randomness does not exist, only simulated randomness
bwjiz: why isnt anything random?
Zelaron: for instance, if you would want to pick a "random" number ouf of 100, you would have to find something local to use
Zelaron: the most common thing to use is the computer clock, calculating its uptime in miliseconds
Zelaron: if the ms counter ends with the numbers 95, your random number could be just that, 95, or if it's 42, your random pick your be 42
Zelaron: of course, this isn't random, but since the counter changes so rapidly, it would seem like it's random
bwjiz: hmm
bwjiz: interesting
Zelaron: of course, there are ways to trick with this, for instance, by stopping your computer clock (which would usually cause your computer to crash, but it could work)
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: now, there seems to be no way around this, and to get real randomness just isn't possible, even in theory
Zelaron: now, in real life, things just don't seem as "random" as they should be, some things are just affected by "destiny"
Zelaron: a guy who wins a game of russian roulette tends to be more lucky than others in some cases, even though he really shouldn't be
Zelaron: so my guess is that there is a computer controlling life that tends to mess up every now and then
Zelaron: =P
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: or the programmers who made us just did a bad work on the random function
bwjiz: riiiiiight..
Zelaron: oh, shut up
you can't prove me wrong

Randuin 2002-11-30 04:54 PM

rofl he's right :)

Strider Fury 2002-11-30 05:29 PM

riiiiiight..

Thanatos 2002-11-30 05:34 PM

Exactley what I said.

Chruser 2002-11-30 05:42 PM

I was thinking about moving this to the Conspiracy Forum, but it's not really a conspiracy after all.

Randuin 2002-11-30 05:44 PM

heh we understand it! :D

Jamesadin 2002-11-30 07:05 PM

He had the exact same conversation with me.

Chruser 2002-11-30 07:16 PM

It was based on the same thing, but it wasn't the exact same conversation. :)

Jamesadin 2002-11-30 07:25 PM

yeah, it was much shorter...but it was on the same subject.

!King_Amazon! 2002-11-30 07:32 PM

So what if we get trojan'd?

Adrenachrome 2002-11-30 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamesadin
He had the exact same conversation with me.
My conversations with Chruser consist of:

Me: I got a question.
Me 10 mins later: Are you alive or just out Chrusin?

2 days later:
Him: Hey there :D

Me 2 hours later: I got a question.
Back to top.

DKWicked 2002-12-01 04:01 PM

I just randomly decided to read this thread.......isnt it amazing! WOW

JiN-RaiDeN 2002-12-01 05:24 PM

Haha, I get the same thing Adrena. Or 4 in the morning I'll tend to get a random message with lots of hypothetical term usage.

Grav 2002-12-01 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JiN-RaiDeN
Haha, I get the same thing Adrena. Or 4 in the morning I'll tend to get a random message with lots of hypothetical term usage.
He's been doing this to me since 2001 >_<

JiN-RaiDeN 2002-12-01 08:49 PM

Zelaron is definitely jocking the copy and paste feature.

Shpook 2002-12-02 01:42 AM

Hey, its there for a reason. You know, theres a personality test thingy that psychs use based on random number. they tell you to pick a random number between 1 and 23 or something, and analyze why you picked the number you picked.

Penguin 2002-12-02 06:13 AM

Chruser always has wierd shit to say/bring up on aim... =0

JRwakebord 2002-12-05 08:36 PM

assuming he ever responds

"CRØNîC-KîLLå" 2002-12-05 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizmo
Zelaron: are you aware of how "simulated randomness" works?
bwjiz: err.. no
Zelaron: generally, NOTHING is random on a computer
Zelaron: randomness does not exist, only simulated randomness
bwjiz: why isnt anything random?
Zelaron: for instance, if you would want to pick a "random" number ouf of 100, you would have to find something local to use
Zelaron: the most common thing to use is the computer clock, calculating its uptime in miliseconds
Zelaron: if the ms counter ends with the numbers 95, your random number could be just that, 95, or if it's 42, your random pick your be 42
Zelaron: of course, this isn't random, but since the counter changes so rapidly, it would seem like it's random
bwjiz: hmm
bwjiz: interesting
Zelaron: of course, there are ways to trick with this, for instance, by stopping your computer clock (which would usually cause your computer to crash, but it could work)
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: now, there seems to be no way around this, and to get real randomness just isn't possible, even in theory
Zelaron: now, in real life, things just don't seem as "random" as they should be, some things are just affected by "destiny"
Zelaron: a guy who wins a game of russian roulette tends to be more lucky than others in some cases, even though he really shouldn't be
Zelaron: so my guess is that there is a computer controlling life that tends to mess up every now and then
Zelaron: =P
bwjiz: lol
Zelaron: or the programmers who made us just did a bad work on the random function
bwjiz: riiiiiight..
Zelaron: oh, shut up
you can't prove me wrong

heh i have never gotten this sort of thing from chruser b4...

Doofus_AW 2002-12-06 12:19 AM

I am going to randomly pick a beer out of the fridge and go to bed.........and i can prove it.

Randuin 2002-12-06 12:28 AM

that happens when he's in the swedish calender/clock whatever they call it in his language ;)


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