Blah, blah, blah.
For the gay marriage part, the government defines a frame of rules. If they don't suit everyone, some people will want to get them changed. There are gays. They want gay marriage to be allowed. There are psychopath murderers. They want the society to allow you to kill anyone you want to for no apparent reason. I'm not comparing gays with murderers, I'm just saying that *somewhere*, there has to be a certain restriction for what members of society can and can't do. And the government sets this line, without anyone with the key in hand to know what's perfectly right for everyone. There is no such solution.

And KagomJack, really, I don't care. Bush makes the sole pronounciation of "The United States" to stink. And it takes effort to make a sound stink. He had his chance, and he should go. Kerry may not be much better, but at least he hasn't failed yet unlike others.

Kerry will fail. Kerry would try to negotiate with terrorists and he would let the terrorists have their way. Trust me, Kerry is a bad thing...

If Kerry becomes president I fear we are doomed.

It would be like Chruser giving Zelaron to The1.

You've got it ass backwards !K_A! Kerry taking office woudl be like The1 giving Zelaron to Chruser. The1 and Bush are on about the same intelligence level.

Slim, face it, Kerry is an asshole who will make America messed up. Don't insult Bush Slim...it's not nice ;)

I'll put this in terms you can understand. Pimpiroth > Bush

I'll put this in better terms:

Bush > Pimpiroth
Bush > The1
Bush = better

You said better terms, not blatant lies.

By the way, here's the current state of the draft legislation. Its fairly side-tracked for the time being. Not dead, but not doing much either.

-frick

S 89 Status
S.89
Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.R.163
Latest Major Action: 1/7/2003 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
STATUS: (color indicates Senate actions)
1/7/2003:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

HR 163 Status
H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (14)
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
STATUS: (color indicates Senate actions)
1/7/2003:
Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.
2/3/2003:
Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
2/3/2003:
Referred to the Subcommittee on Total Force.

How can you say that? In my eyes, not only has Bush failed the United States with his blatant lies of "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, but he has failed the rest of the world as well by being a power-hungry warmonger. What baffles me is how you people can accuse Kerry of failing before he has even had a chance. I honestly don't know how great of a president he will be, but it would take a hell of a lot of effort to be a worse president than Mr. Bush.

I want you to list me EXACTLY what bush has done wrong instead of calling him a "power hungry warmonger" and all that bullshit you keep babbling.

Besides give the US our largest national deficit in history and start a pointless war in Iraq?

I have listed it a numerous number of times.

Here it is again:
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthr...382&post390382

Look, the only reason John Kerry would fail is because he is one of those people who goes "I believe in what you believe!" He is also very 2 faced. Besides, the terrorists want him as prez so they can get away with more shit.

Kagom, quit assuming stupid shit. Bush makes this country look like a big pile of dog shit, there is no way in hell anyone could do worse. The man is a complete and utter moron.

No, trust me. It's a gut feeling. Kerry would not only fuck up this country, but would be the result of the US becoming some other country's bitch.

You're going to determine the quality of leadership of a possible future president on a gut feeling?

Yes, because gut feelings are always better than cold hard facts.

It's not just that. The things I"ve read about him...it's that and the gut feelings. I usually trust my gut feelings.

My gut feeling told me to kill someone a while ago...

Bet that'd be a good thing to trust.