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Draco2003 2008-09-12 10:03 PM

I am quite humbled to be considered for the Moderator position, because to me it shows that you respect me enough to enforce rules. I would appreciate the positions, but I would like to point out the pro's and con's of my candidacy(sp?).

I agree I would make a good moderator, due to the fact that I seem to be one of the few members that understands not to take anything personally here. I am on a steady amount, although not nearly as active as some of the other members, and I pay attention to a majority of the forums. I believe I have good grammar and I spell well. I have a rare ability to take on multiple points of views of almost any given situation, and form my own judgements with a little room to vary in degrees of intensity. I understand what subjects need to be left alone, which need further exploration, and which are complete and anything following is more than likely unrelated or unnecessary. Because I view many of the active members here as friends, I feel that I can help them to reach an understanding should a conflict break out; I wouldn't be able to choose one friend over another. And, if elected, I would make a few changes, starting with the way people handle beefs.

And while the positve side may persuade you to vote in favor of me, I feel there are some negative things that should be pointed out. First of which is there may be a period of inactivity from me, due to me sharing a family computer at the moment. With 2 brothers, a sister-in-law and parents all trying to get on at different times, it could be who knows how long before I get on. Sometimes, one of my brothers likes to race to it, and he'll be on it all night, and he repeats this 3 or 4 nights in a row. Another thing, is that because I am not as well acquainted with some newer members, I may be unintentionally biased towards either party. One other thing that I feel needs to be adressed. In order to lead, you can't be friends with those you are leading. You can be friendly, but when your friendship starts to interfere with your duty, one of them falls apart.

Now, I know some of you may be reading this and thinking, "Dude, you are taking this way too serious," but I feel that something as important as moderator shouldn't be viewed as 'fun'. That's not saying you can't have fun being a moderator, but there are times when you need to act in a serious manner, and if you never take your duty serious, how can your serious actions be viewed as such?

Now, to cast my vote, I would like to re-elect Yawgmoth, for the reasons that Chruser has stated. He is unfamiliar with anyone here or how things operate, and if change is going to happen, it is going to come from someone who is unfamiliar with the way things work. I feel that when he returns, if he ever decides to, that he may be granted a moderator position again. Especially with the upcoming wave of Diablo 3 fanatics that are expected.
Besides him though, I think Thanatos or Willkillforfood would be good moderators. They seem pretty levelheaded, and have been here a while. They have also shown intelligence and knowledge of the English language, which seems to be something that is lacking here as of late. So, in my parting words, I leave you with the following chants:

THAN'S THE MAN TO BANISH SPAM!
and
WILLKILL WILL THRILL!


I know... it's cheesy... but all campaign slogans are...
deal

Kazilla 2008-09-12 10:42 PM

I don't think having the ability to form correct sentences has anything to do with anyones ability to be a valid moderator. People can capitalize letters and use comma's when appropriate. It's not rocket science. However, the ability to be active in my opinion is the most important aspect to the new moderator. Chruser has pointed out that the position is more or less a spam control position. Not many threads/posts on this forum require much moderation. In fact the only ones I can think of at this moment are the ones that KA has abused his power in. Which is pretty ironic if you think about it.

Now, onto what I think the ideal moderator has.

1. An understanding of this forum, and what its purpose is. (How can you respresent something you know nothing about)
2. An understanding of what a moderator is. (In my eye's a moderator is little more then an internet cop. He is meant to enforce the rules.)
3. Activity, activity, and oh yea... activity. (The most annoying leader is one who never shows up)
4. The voice of his followers. (ie. The community, some of us are throwing idea's out as fast as possible. Awaiting word from a staff member that can do something about it. I would like the new moderator to be in a position to carry on our idea's. Moderators should be able to contact staff faster then a member can.)

The poll's should be up soon. The voting will begin and we will soon see who our next moderator will be!

btw, typing all proper and what not is just annoying and takes twice as long. i prefer to type like this because i can do it much faster ;)

D3V 2008-09-12 11:26 PM

I think there are a few things everyone here is forgetting.

Who brings MORE activity and ideas to these boards?
Who has done so in the past?
Who has the potential and shown that they can do more, given they are in a higher position?

I think just basing it off of whom you might like, or who you enjoy reading posts from shouldn't be your number one criteria. You should atleast take into consideration of who can make Zelaron better, who can spark new activity and enlighten new posts. If you are nominating or choosing somebody because you just like them for their shit-talking or because you both like Sports, or both like Anime, or the same music, then you are being biased and the whole point of nominating another Mod (besides being a spam-bot remover, which i'm sure essentially anyone who posts 4 times a day can take care of) is to make this place better as a whole.

Kazilla 2008-09-12 11:43 PM

Eh, Are you implying that having the moderator tag somehow magically attracts new members? Because if you are, you are wrong. The only way we are going to get new members is to suggest new idea's, present them, and then act upon them. If a bran new member showed up and in his opening post said he knows how to increase the activity tenfold and then does it, does he deserve a moderator tag? The entire moderator essence is really only there because Chruser and WW can't be online 24/7. If they could then they would have no need for any moderators. Because they can't they aquired the assistance of Yawgmoth, Lenny, and that other guy. Yawgmoth and the other guy have shown little concern for the state of this forum. While Lenny is showing his true colors and actually doing things for this forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chruser
(and consequently, additional, active protection from spam bots)

He is telling you your basically only going to be given this position to control the spam.

Again, the moderator tag DOES NOT magically imbue you with the ability to draw in members.

D3V 2008-09-12 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazilla (Post 651613)
Eh, Are you implying that having the moderator tag somehow magically attracts new members? Because if you are, you are wrong. The only way we are going to get new members is to suggest new idea's, present them, and then act upon them. If a bran new member showed up and in his opening post said he knows how to increase the activity tenfold and then does it, does he deserve a moderator tag? The entire moderator essence is really only there because Chruser and WW can't be online 24/7. If they could then they would have no need for any moderators. Because they can't they aquired the assistance of Yawgmoth, Lenny, and that other guy. Yawgmoth and the other guy have shown little concern for the state of this forum. While Lenny is showing his true colors and actually doing things for this forum.


He is telling you your basically only going to be given this position to control the spam.

Again, the moderator tag DOES NOT magically imbue you with the ability to draw in members.

Did you even read my post?... :confused:

I'm not saying you have to draw in members, and I'm not a nominee for the biggest retard of the year award, so it's obvious by changing a title doesn't bring new members in. I'm saying, you should use your "power/privledges" towards good and promote the forums and new ideas, while motivating existing good ideas..

:rolleyes:

Draco2003 2008-09-12 11:51 PM

In my post, the proper grammar thing and spelling is important, because if someone in a position of power can't bring together a sentence, I wouldn't trust his judgement on much else. Obviously, there are people still in school that are learning, or just don't care, as you stated. But when someone's posts consist of 90%: "Te'h Lo:LERzka,t,eZORS!!1!" and 10%: "BANNED, I LOVE MM'BOP!!1!!1 Ddo,'t dis:like HAnsEn AGEN!1!!" I think that speaks volumes of their character.

Something I forgot in my "CON" argument: I am not very active in much of the rest of the forum. I occasionally hit up the video game sections, entertainment sections, but I tend to stay in the "General" section. Also, I can't contribute to sports that much...

Kazilla 2008-09-12 11:56 PM

In reality, someone with less responsibility could spend more time promoting something then someone with more responsibility.

ie. D3v gets new Supreme Mod, and is asked to watch from 3-4pm for spam bots, as it is apparent that they strike durring those times.
Kazilla who isnt weighed down with mindless spam control visits other sites freely, and posts knowing he doesn't have to worry about missing a spam bot.

Moderator has nothing to do with activity, promotion, or demotion. It is a title with a fancy saying when broken down says, "Hey! I enforce teh rules!"

Now, like I said earlier. It would be nice for someone to take our words straight to the staff. Any member can do this though so, im still unsure about that subject. I have posted about three posibilities in order to clean up or increase activity within the gaming section. Should this qualify me as Supreme Moderator because, I haven't seen many other suggestions recently. (I dont possess a cocky tone when saying this, if you know of some recent suggestions please link them)

Edit for the Draco's post while I was responding to D3v.

Really its a matter of preference. Imagine a world where everyone hated how the English talked. Lenny would get thrown around three different ways from Sunday. Who cares how they talk, as long as they get the job done. If you got a 1337 speaking moderator that actually does it well, and follows the rules. What does it matter?

D3V 2008-09-13 12:00 AM

.. You make it sound like clicking 2-3 times per account and eliminating the issue is this huge complicated, elaborate problem that requires a multi-cabinent team to enforce the stellar forum-interactive police state. It's really not a big deal. Now like I said, I really think a Sup Mod/Mod should be there more than just a spam-filter. They should be there to help their specific forum out, or the boards in general. If you want to keep arguing, please make a new thread and i'll be happy to take sides in there and let everyone else deliberate on what they think a Moderator/Sup Mod should be, for these boards.

Chruser 2008-09-13 08:51 AM

Nominations are closed. Vote here: http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46783


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