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Chruser 2004-06-25 08:38 AM

I'm not against the idea, I just see a certain bias factor popping up. The alternative is obviously to let ALL members vote. The1 and such "disliked members" would be dissed by both the jury AND the general board population, so the question is whether or not it really makes much of a difference.

Penny_Bags 2004-06-25 08:51 AM

Chruser, the bias is there for a reason. The1 is a complete and total moron and jackass.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-25 08:52 AM

I wouldn't be against all of the members voting. That sounds like a better idea.

Grav 2004-06-25 08:55 AM

That sounds like a fishy idea, because most members probably won't even know what they are voting for, or whatnot..

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-25 09:12 AM

It's not as fishy as putting you and a handful of other people in charge.

Grav 2004-06-25 09:14 AM

There's a reason those people would be there; they're good judges of character.

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 09:18 AM

Who would the 5 be again?

Grav 2004-06-25 09:18 AM

It's up for discussion.

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 09:23 AM

well how about
  • Grav
  • Sov
  • Raz
  • !K_A!
  • Penny
in that group there are opposites and people that are hated and like by diffrent people.

Grav 2004-06-25 09:27 AM

I would skip Sov and K_A if only because they are frequently on this forum under the influence, and not the best judges of character that I have seen.. I mean, Sov actually talks to The1, that's not sane :(

Vollstrecker 2004-06-25 09:43 AM

heh

Another alternative would be to have Zel staff (News poster and up) do it? Got me. Any of the ideas sounds amusing.

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 09:44 AM

true, how about bob and voll?
its hard to think of good members, theres not many sane ones here that arn't staff members.

Grav 2004-06-25 10:04 AM

I considered Bob, and Voll would be a good choice also.

Yeah.. I can't find many good members, odd realization for me.

I would recommend:

Raziel
Medieval Bob
Vollstrecker
Penny_Bags
Titusfied
RoboticSilence (maybe, but he's on vacation or something?)

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 10:09 AM

Should there really be an admin with this, he allready has plenty to do. (I guess)

Grav 2004-06-25 10:11 AM

I keep forgetting Ditus is an admin o_O

Maybe mjordan2nd.. but I'm not sure.
Possibly Thanatos (Jizmo)? Not sure on that one either.

Titusfied 2004-06-25 10:15 AM

On the lines of Chruser's thoughts. I actually think a jury and members that have been here a certain amount of time, say at least 4 months, so they can actually do a good judge of character? Maybe also a post count restriction of 250 or so, which would show they aren't inactive too?

On another note, there already is a Reputation Level thing set up with this version of vB that we don't utilize. That could be something as well, aside from the jury and member votes (Rep Level is for Staff).

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 10:16 AM

Dont know why but Jizmo would be better than Mjordan, not sure why i think this tho.

undeadzombieguy 2004-06-25 10:58 AM

Maybe u need to first ask who would wants to do it. I dont think there will be alot of members who would spent alot of time debatting over giving someone a ''stamp of approval'' or not...

Medieval Bob 2004-06-25 11:05 AM

I'm sure there's at least a good chance that anyone inducted to The Council would be willing to put forth the effort to taunt and make fun of people.

uncapped 2004-06-25 11:12 AM

As Titus said, you guys could use a "reputation bar." Each council member gets to put in a Yay or Nay on whether he the member is okay in his book or not. For each Yay the member goes up a notch on the bar, and for each Nay he goes down.

And the top-ten highest reputation's get a stamp of approval or something that appears somewhere.

And the top-ten lowest rated are banned.

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 11:18 AM

or losered for a week.

uncapped 2004-06-25 11:19 AM

No. Banned.

Vollstrecker 2004-06-25 12:14 PM

Banned is a harsh punishment if they never actually broke any rules.

I think we should stick 'em with a nice, humiliating sig.

'Rectal Rooters. Servicing men's plumbing since 1940' or something.

...I need to go to bed. :(

Titusfied 2004-06-25 12:15 PM

Posted Today, 02:14 PM...

There will be no Bans for the worst members.

ask_rabber 2004-06-25 12:28 PM

Solid.

Go to hell you character limit.

symnzXx 2004-06-25 12:28 PM

yeah, that's fucking retarded.

Penny_Bags 2004-06-25 12:37 PM

So is worthless spam in "Forum Discussion".

Yeah I think this idea would be great, and I don't know what is holding Chruser back with this kind of approval from the forum dwellers.

Vollstrecker 2004-06-25 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny_Bags
I don't know what is holding Chruser back with this kind of approval from the forum dwellers.

Anything official would likely take time to implement...

Plus, it's not even finalized yet. This still appears as conjecture.

symnzXx 2004-06-25 12:42 PM

@penny: yes, because you're one of the asskissers on the forum. there's a little circle of elitists on here, and those would be the ones picked to do the judging. so, by implementing this, we're not only advocating being an elitist, but we're actually placing a label on elitists to have a higher social rank of sorts. this idea is shit, and it most likely will fail.

Slim 2004-06-25 12:47 PM

See, now resorting to flaming in EVERY topic you post in would probably get you BLISed or GAHHed at the least.

‡AC‡ 2004-06-25 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vollstrecker
Anything official would likely take time to implement...

Plus, it's not even finalized yet. This still appears as conjecture.

correct sir, a final 5 has not been set. We were just speculating who had the abilty to do good character judgements. Plus the fact that admins have to get the structure setup.

symnzXx 2004-06-25 12:52 PM

i wasn't flaming slim. stop assuming.

Slim 2004-06-25 12:53 PM

You called Penny an asskisser.

Penny_Bags 2004-06-25 12:55 PM

Yeah... wtf...


And yes MasterAC is right.

symnzXx 2004-06-25 12:57 PM

lol, i was just making a point. i didnt mean it in a bad way. besides, me and penny are tight. lol. ;p

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-25 01:33 PM

Quit spamming up this forum/flaming in it.

I think this is sort of like the points system, maybe some way we can incorporate that. It is truly just a conjecture, hopefully if Chruser approves, we can finalize very soon and get this running good. And would the council have a seperate forum to themselves?

Titusfied 2004-06-25 04:54 PM

Hopefully. That would be great, but only if there is much deliberation to be had.

Thanatos 2004-06-25 09:56 PM

Finally! Penny and I get mentioned as part of the veteran/smarter members.

But.. yeah, I'd be interested in this council. I miss being a news poster and if I make this council I can fill that void. [/end pathetic story]

I'm game.

Randuin 2004-06-26 12:21 AM

You know my opinion, you ALL suck ;)

Chruser 2004-06-26 04:43 AM

Again, the bias will likely be obvious if a regular member decides to attack a council member in any way. If council member X gets thoroughly flamed by board member Y, chances are that X will hate Y and say bad things about Y to other council members, which in turn leads to Y getting a "bad rating".

On the contrary, a "let everyone vote" system will likely, as previously stated, only receive input from a small circuit of members. A member who is in need to improve his score after several bad incidents could easily tell a few of his/her friends to boost his score, as "a few" people will likely dominate the direction of the user's score.

Yet another method would be to rate the user's individual posts, one by one, to grade the individual input from time to time, which would more efficiently be done by regular board members than a jury, as the jury would hardly read ALL posts on the forum, and maybe exclude those in, say, the RM2K3 forum.


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