I hope you are being facetious.

I suppose we can all agree that Obama is the favorite? Damnit I thought FOR SURE somebody would pop their ugly ass in here besides Darwin and try to make this into a "Debate" but I guess not,...

Clinton was supposed to be on the mix radio station here this morning. Didn't listen to it because I have to work....but early this morning they were talking about what they were going to talk to her about...and it was..............

IPODs and Iphones!!! haha

Jeb Bush '08!!!

Dude seriously, Fuck Jeb Bush, however he is better than GW, but we had him as our guy here in Florida for a while and nothing but bad things have come from his redneck wannabe ass... Seriously, Florida literally has some of the worst schools in the nation, we're behind budget amonst other states that are far worse off than each other, bam that enough is no platform for him, you lose Jeb.


But seriously, I would vote for Howard Dean in '08 if he ran again, hahaha, Poor guy.

Like I said before, I could seriously consider McCain.

He's been having so much problems already though, they say he's gonna be the first "casulty" of the '08 political race... well the first real candidate to fall out..

We need a president who in the back of their mind has only been playing the political game the whole time to serve their ascent into the presidency, at which point they can cut to shit and tackle some real issues.

I'm sorry, but I really don't think any of these people are that person.... maybe Obama... but then again- he's a nigger.

Let's hope you have some more common sense than that last statement of yours, Penny.

Penny is on something though look at the votes. Maybe it's because white people have failed us so many times?

Obviously, white people are different from others in this sense.

We should elect a dog, since every human who's been elected President has drawn some dissent. Someone should call the dog who played in the Air Bud movies.

Screw Air Bud get that other dog the smart one who solved mysteries I think it was Lassie.

Fuck a dog president. I want that gorilla from Congo. She was intelligent and an asskicker.

Man, that's a classic movie right there. Good stuff.

One of the gray ones could be secretary of defense.

Now we're talkin'.

Nah get a Baboon as the President I hear they know some awesome combat techniques and tactics.

EXACTLY! Why do presidential candidates incessantly talk about their jingoistic philosophies? And why is the American populace so receptive to these philosophies?

I'm not entirely sure, to be honest. I think a part of it would be that part of America is simply bored and receptive to anything that would add excitement to their lives in addition to the "America is the best country evar!" propaganda we're constantly being fed.

Perhaps this is a discussion for another thread though, as we're slightly offtopic.

Point taken, I'll shut up about it.

Not saying anything like that, I'm just saying we might want to make sure we're either focused on the topic of Presidential qualities or take a debate about the American populace to another thread. :D

Just an update. The CNN/YouTube debate is on tonight, i'm not exactly sure who's going to be on it, and what they're going to be debating, I think users get to send in questions, so hopefully the candidates can stay on fucking topic and answer some questions, should be fun to watch.

www.cnn.com
www.youtube.com

Oh, a debate where users can ask questions?

Sounds like it'll be a fun game of political dodgeball!

You know what bothers me, is how can Hilary be at the top of these "polls" when it's obvious that Obama is the favorite. That's all everyone ever looks at is the damn polls, and they're hardly ever accurate. I'm supposing that Hilary has her own set of geeks that continously vote for her online to keep her morale up.

Either way, Obama '08 WILL happen, even if it takes beating out a Psycho bitch like Hilary with all of the Femenists behind her. Even shit, Oprah doesn't even support her, she's a smart woman, backing Obama. What you got on that beeyatch?

From what I've observed, the polls are generally pretty damned accurate. They aren't perfect, but they're usually a good prediction of what will happen. I would believe that Obama is the favorite amongst the youth of the nation, but sadly that's also the group that is the least represented on the ballots.

It sucks so much that Hilary will probably take that poll, I swear all we have to do is push. If politics come up at work, speak your damn mind. Anywhere and everywhere, I don't want another fucking '04 election to happen and have some asshat like Bush elected into office, it pisssed me off so much that Kerry couldn't even take that nominee.

I think what it is, is that more people have time to submit polls for hilary, rather than Obama, because most people that like Hilary are ignorant, thinking that Bill is going to be back in office again, amongst other things, she has no real experience, and she seems unknowledgeable about pretty much everything, while on the other hand Obama is the man, he nails every point and is always perfect with his demeanor, while Hilary is basically just rhetoric that she's been practicing in the mirror.

Most of these polls aren't done online, though.

I honestly hope that John Edwards is the democratic candidate, but I know this will not be the case.

You really like John Edwards? He seems to fake to me, that whole "OMG I'm just a southern boy with a gay daughter" thing is played out too much, just like MCCain's LE OMG I WAS A POW.. is just old..

I like Barrack Obama better than John Edwards. But I like John Edwards better than any of the republicans. And as a black man, I don't think Obama stands a chance of winning the election.

Yeah how come your people don't like him? o_O He's not even all the way black, so you don't get to claim him all the way, anyways.

And John Edwards is a Democrat, not a republican

I guess I should expand a bit.

What I mean is the idea of a black man running for president would scare away a lot of the centrists and those that lean democrat, but also have some republican views. It would also guarantee that those who normally vote republican but have been scared away from the republican party due to our current regime continue to vote republican, because I believe a black president is too extreme a change for them. If John Edwards were pushed through the democratic primaries, however, I have no doubt that he would win the election. Really, any white, heterosexual, protestant male who ran as a democrat would win, which is why I'd rather John Edwards be the democratic candidate.

Overall, I think Obama is better qualified to be president. He exemplifies, at least for now, the qualities I would like to see in the leader of our nation. He should serve as a paradigm for presidential candidates. That said, I don't think he can win. That is the only reason I hope he is not the democratic candidate, because I honestly don't want another 4 years of the republican party.

I'm in full agreeance with your reasoning regarding Obama, although I don't know John Edwards at all. I think we'll see a woman President before a Black President for sure, there simply isn't enough active voters among the younger populace to outweigh the votes of oldtimers who still haven't moved past the last few decades mentally.

Wow, Mike Gravel just won some support from me. I'm going to have to look into it a little.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YtSrmfBHkZQ

Ron Paul seems decent too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qD9eO7qToTk

I was surprised that you didn't list Ron Paul in your poll when you created the thread. I would choose him over Obama. He seems very level-headed and rational about things.

Just go read up a bit on his history, he doesn't seem proinent enough to me to be our leader, because in fact, that is what we need. But for John Edwards I agree MJ, I wouldn't mind him being our Dem nominee, much rather have him over Hilary, maybe he could announce running with Obama as his Vice Prez, maybe that would win over some support.

woo hoo go Oboma. Oboma='s better then yo moma (aka Clinton) and yo slow little brother (aka Bush)

If the republican party wins again this country will dissolve into chaos.

It's true, I heard that Cheney was planning to summon Cthulu when they won again.

Really? I heard that a super-ultra-mega-badass-baal-diablo-clone cross-breed spawn was supposed to be summoned...I must have heard wrong.