What did I just say, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. So you saying that we flew planes into our own buildings to attack Iraq is way the hell off. If we were going to do something like that to attack Iraq don't you think we would actually blame it on them? But hey, why bother listening to logic when you can blindly bash a country for dumbass propaganda made by some anti-American assholes. I admit America isn't perfect but it's much better than most other countries.

America is much better.... How so?

Well let's start with your country, where do you live?

Canada. - What's wrong with canada?

Besides the fact that you can't defend yourself at all if someone decided to attack you?

We don't need too, Cause we don't attack people in the first place.

It's your turn... Do your worse. I think I have spoken for everyone in canada on that one.

Peace is better then war.

I'm pretty sure if we weren't below you with all the military power we have, Canada would be property of some other country by now.

Before you start this peace is better than war shit. I wasn't for the war in Iraq, it was completely pointless.

We canadians go to other countrys and we get greeted nice.

Most Americans are fucking dumb end of story.

Do you have any proof? Have you talked to most Americans? No.

Really now.

YOU, are a moron. Don't go telling Americans that were fucking stupid. Canada is a french based country. If i do remember correctly, in world war two, the french declared war on germany, then didnt attack for a few weeks/months, then they got pwned to hell and had to ask the Us and other countries for help. THats fucking stupid.

Now shut your god damn mouth.

Edit- oh wait, hes already banned. Dammit

Fuck, fight for our country! Kerry would just let the terrorists trample us and make America its bitch.

I'm not going to be forced into a fighting for a country i hate. So fuck bush, and fuck the draft. His uber "we must do this for god" attitude is pissing me off.

then dodge the draft and get thrown in jail...or move to another country and hide. You don't have to live in America Sov. You are empowered to live where you'd like. Me, I'm not pro-America, but I'm not anti-American. I don't want to fight for this country, but I would, but only if I felt the cause was just.

Oh shut the fuck up. I AM forced to live here. I am a minor and therefore my parents are still my legal guardians. And until i'm 18, the law says they have final say on what i do. Rest assured i will be moving to canada the SECOND i can afford it. I'm not going to go get shot at by some bastard all because some stupid ape told me that i have to "fight to defend our great country". And after i move to canada, im going to turn on the news, and LAUGH while people who "defend there country for a just cause" are getting slaughtered by the hundreds for some stupid half assed reason.

Well, I don't care what you do. But dammit, my cousin is out in Iraq. He's a mine specialist...and his best friend just got blown up by a mine. So let me tell you this, it is not funny when someone dies in war. To you, it may be a half-assed reason, but there is a good reason in this Sov. But Sov, you don't have to take a position in the army that requires actual combat. I'm sure there's something you could do with computers that requires 0 combat. But look, running to Canada to avoid something your country is doing is (in my opinion) something sort of a pussy's way out.

Well i quite frankly don't care that your cousins friend died. I find it VERY funny when people are still willing to go out there, and die for no reason.

This ISNT my country. This is just the temporary brothel that i am forced to live in until i can move. This country cound rot in hell for all i care. AFter i move to canada, if i was to turn on the news, and hear that the us was just turned into a giant bomb crater, id be happy.

This country is full of shit. And im fed up wiht it. And I WONT support this country in making future fuckups. I will not die for this piece of shit country, just because a persident orders me to fight.

And lastly, I am not moving to canada to avoid a draft. I've had that plan for YEARS.

But hey, whats wrong with dodging drafts. I hear that the bush family has dodged a few of them.

actually, I read that was something that the Liberals/Democrats came up with to make him look bad. But it turned out to be false and Bush did serve. I know you don't care that my cousin's best friend died. You heartless shit. There are some people who still have a sense of pride in this country. There are still some who wish to preserve it. This country needs a good president like Reagan or JFK to help it. Kerry would definitely fuck it up. Bush wouldn't bury the country like Kerry. But you should be slightly more proud of this country. If you try to do what you can to change it for the better, don't you think that it would be better? BTW, if the USA was to become a crater, I think that it wouldn't be long until someone tried to take over Canada and the rest of the Americas.

Heartless shit? Sorry for not caring about someone I DONT KNOW. And I honestly hope his family knows that he died for NO GOOD CAUSE.

Kerry CANT POSSIBLY FUCK IT UP MORE THEN BUSH DID.

I am ASHAMED of this country. And nothing I directly do can change my feelings.

Excuse me, but isn't it BUSH that's trying to start a nuclear war with North Korea? Didn't he take the largest budget surplus and turn it into the biggest national deficit in US history? Didn't we just get into a completely pointless war because of Bush?
I agree Bush wouldn't bury the country like Kerry. He'd get us blown the fuck up. Kerry might be able to do something positive for the country.

And kerry doesn't SEEM to be the bible humping moron that bush is.

(Sorry about that sov, that kinda slipped, it was wrong of me to say that.)

No, look at Kerry: He doesn't stick with a single decision at all. Seriously, he voted for some million dollars to go to the Iraq war when it was to be voted to go through Congress. Then when it was to go through the Senate, he voted against it. He was also against gay marriage, and then later said "I am opposed, but if it makes you happy, go out and do it!" Besides, Kerry is an asshole.

Yes, Bush wants to ban gay marriage. As if the government should have a roll in what they want to do with their lives.

I will agree with a lot of people on this: gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the gov't.

If the US would turn into a crater, then the rest of the world would too, probably.

Alien attacks!!!

Actually it was the 87 billion dollar bill that was going to be written for us to go to war. And by the same it had made it to senate Kerry had learned some of the facts about the actual point of the war. (He was caught up in post 9/11 just like the rest of us, and he voted for it at that time. ) But now that we ALL can see Iraq is just a distraction for our 'war on terror' he changed his opinion.

Actually, Kerry and Bush are against gay marriage. But they both agreed on wanting to have the 'Civil Union'. And Kerry is not an asshole in anyway, kj. I believe Kerry can pull us out of this shithole that we are in as of now.

what's the draft?

Is it getting ready for war?

Oh my god! What are you, 10?

9 to be precise

What the hell are you doing on Zelaron if you're 9?

What 9 year olds aren't allowed?

Im pretty computer smart and I love bigger forums so why wouldn't I come to this one?

If you can understand what we're talking about there's no problem with it.

damn, Their coming down on me in the flamer room. Damn clowns.

I don't have to be drafted eh?

Ill just become a trailor Park boy.

Technically, no they arent.

WEll at least when i signed up almost a year ago, you had to agree that you were over the age of 13. But i highly doubt chruser, or any other staff member for that matter, gives a shit.

I certainly don't.

There's a form for under 13.

Actually, not really. Kerry is very indecisive about many things. And Kerry is an asshole. 1) I have a coworker whose daughter went to graduation for someone and she sat next to Kerry. He was a total asshole to her. 2) He flips off a Vietnam veteran in front of schoolchildren... 3) He (after starting Vietnam Veterans Against War) was pro-Communism. 4) He claimed to have stood proudly against Reagan during the wartime. Then he decides that it wasn't bad. 5) He said Reagan was too hard on terrorists...

BTW, I read somewhere that Ben Stein (Actor and wealthy man) said that Kerry's economic plan would be bad for us.

Under Bush:
288,000 new jobs
Unemployment falls
625,000 jobs in 2 months.

Something about tax:

Every year an independant tax watchdog group analyzes the average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day." This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the gov't. This year, tax freedom day was on April 11th. That's the earliest it's been since 1991. The latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice anything special about these dates? Today (June 9th) Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite tax cuts. He gave no explanation and provided no data for this claim.

Another interesting fact:

Both George W. Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men. Bush owns only one home, his rance in Texas. John Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces. Not your average A-frame)

Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does this sound right?

The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out a way to avoid paying his own.

i want Clinton back..you know you go it good when the biggest fuck up anyone remembers is a blowjob.

eh, Clinton was decent. But today at Reagan's second funeral Hillary was out cold and Bill was barely awake.

I highly doubt I'd stay awake through an entire funeral.

If I can stay awake through the school's awards ceremony, I'm sure I could stay awake through a lot of things...